Poor install EICR 12 year old hotel

[conrad]

Agree with you on most of them but not the code 2 for sockets outlets, unless they can be used out doors, Yes I agree it would be better to have RCD protection but not sure if I could justify a code 2 it would be a code 3 for me if they can not be use outdoors.

In a commercial premesis it is marked as a C2 in the Napit codebreakers book.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Napit are wrong then.

 

[conrad]

Is this one of those big modular hotels where the entire bedroom is craned into position and "plugged in"?
I'm thinking its a big concrete or metal box. A fire within the room or the CU would be confined to the module itself. The hole in the plasterboard doesn't go through to the rest of the hotel.

No

 

[Ian1981]

In a commercial premesis it is marked as a C2 in the Napit codebreakers book.

They also code 2 pvc cables not rcd protected in walls less than 50mm from surface so it’s not to be taken as gospel in my opinion.
Books like this can have the opposite effect as in people will use it as gospel rather than coding it on the current circumstances

 

[Flanders]

In a commercial premesis it is marked as a C2 in the Napit codebreakers book.

Does it give a reason for this? , also is a hotel classed as commercial I thought they would be classed as simply a hotel

 

[conrad]

Thinking about the hole I would not code 2 for fire reasons because as long as all the terminals are tight its not going to catch on fire , but might code 2 it due to the amount of dust debris that could build up inside the CU and get into the terminals due to the large hole.

Again reading the napit codebreakers book it states holes not made goot as to reduce the spread of fire are C2. I would rather C2 and have a valid reference such as a book than to C3 it and argue against it.

 

[Flanders]

They also code 2 pvc cables not rcd protected in walls less than 50mm from surface so it’s not to be taken as gospel in my opinion.

Agree with you there thats always a code 3 for me

 

[Flanders]

They also code 2 pvc cables not rcd protected in walls less than 50mm from surface so it’s not to be taken as gospel in my opinion.

Agree with you there thats always a code 3 for me

 

[Ian1981]

Again reading the napit codebreakers book it states holes not made goot as to reduce the spread of fire are C2. I would rather C2 and have a valid reference such as a book than to C3 it and argue against it.

You have bs 7671 as reference.
It can be considered a C2 if it’s a fire barrier as per section 527

 

[conrad]

Thinking about the hole I would not code 2 for fire reasons because as long as all the terminals are tight its not going to catch on fire , but might code 2 it due to the amount of dust debris that could build up inside the CU and get into the terminals due to the large hole.

Again reading the napit codebreakers book it states holes not made goot as to reduce the spread of fire are C2. I would rather C2 and have a valid reference such as a book than to C3 it and argue against it.

Napit are wrong then.

I disagree. If someone was to plug something in

You have bs 7671 as reference.
It can be considered a C2 if it’s a fire barrier

527.2.1 is the reg attached to the coding in the napit book. Obviously there will be no mention of coding in the regs but again i would rather have a reference, although i agree not gospel.