putting outdoor 100w floodlights on plugs

[DefyG]

Majority of manufacturers warranties will be for 12 months so unlikely the installers would guarantee them beyond that period.
Should they fail before the warranty period has expired. From experience, most suppliers will replace the fitting, leaving the installer to 'attempt' to recover any 'call back' costs/labour/travelling from the manufacturer which more often than not doesn't end favourably for the installer!

 

[nicebutdim]

they've mostly been Ansell lights and yes I expect them to honour but they aren't and I'm done with them, they wanted a big job doing all my electrics and don't want to deal with any snags or failures, even when paying for it all they're difficult to get out, I've given up with them. I paid them a large tip too when the job was complete, I'm an idiot. I'm happy to pay for a good light (although I've no idea how to choose one), I just don't want to keep replacing them, or at least be able to do it myself.

All electricians will have personal thoughts about particular manufacturer's, so I'm not going to pass judgement on Ansell (good or bad), but I will point out that many Ansell floodlights (not all) are warranted for 5 years.

It might be an idea, without labouring the point, to check that any future electrician, whose services you engage, honour a period of warranty on their work and are prepared to deal with manufacturer warranty claims on any products they provide.

 

[nicebutdim]

Majority of manufacturers warranties will be for 12 months so unlikely the installers would guarantee them beyond that period.
Should they fail before the warranty period has expired. From experience, most suppliers will replace the fitting, leaving the installer to 'attempt' to recover any 'call back' costs/labour/travelling from the manufacturer which more often than not doesn't end favourably for the installer!

This is true, but it's not a problem that any reputable business would pass to their customers. It's also something that should be taken into account when specifying products - all well and good when Mrs Jones wants a 10W floodlight in her back garden, but multiple factors should be consideration on more involved installation and be down to whatever a particular wholesaler has in stock.

 

[fetchmypony]

I think the point wasn't that fitting a plug would invalidate warranty, but some lights come pre-flexed and changing this flex may reduce the IP rating of a fitting and, by extension, invalidate its warranty.

ah apologies, I'm sorry I don't actually know how they were done. I had an online search and some said they came with cable that could be swapped but I forget the wording

 

[nicebutdim]

ah apologies, I'm sorry I don't actually know how they were done. I had an online search and some said they came with cable that could be swapped but I forget the wording

The installation may be fine and I believe the other comment was intended to highlight a potential problem, rather than point at a cause.

I've no idea what is causing these failures, but wouldn't immediately assume water ingress.

 

[fetchmypony]

All electricians will have personal thoughts about particular manufacturer's, so I'm not going to pass judgement on Ansell (good or bad), but I will point out that many Ansell floodlights (not all) are warranted for 5 years.

It might be an idea, without labouring the point, to check that any future electrician, whose services you engage, honour a period of warranty on their work and are prepared to deal with manufacturer warranty claims on any products they provide.

thanks, I've learned a bit of a lesson and I wasn't trying to labout the point about the installers at all, it's done. I've let it go now.
I'd really like to have a go at replacing these 2 lights though, or learn how to do it, it's a bit of an ongoing expense for me to get a spark out for one light at a time when it can be as much as half a days lost work for them to come & do it. I've just had one out last week for another light

 

[nicebutdim]

thanks, I've learned a bit of a lesson and I wasn't trying to labout the point about the installers at all, it's done. I've let it go now.
I'd really like to have a go at replacing these 2 lights though, or learn how to do it, it's a bit of an ongoing expense for me to get a spark out for one light at a time when it can be as much as half a days lost work for them to come & do it. I've just had one out last week for another light

You haven't laboured any point about the electricians and I'd be fairly angry about any trade that absolved itself of responsibility.

My point was that you should ask electricians about their warranty policy, but not labour the point as doing so might make you appear to be potentially problematic.

 

[Electro-tech]

If the light posts are metal, & as this is a public place I believe this becomes a special location Bs7671 section 714 applies.
I know it can be expensive but , I think you ought to get the works done professionally & certified. RCD protection clarified.
Over the years there have been a lot of Led floodlights failing & I would say that if the Lamp has a Meanwell driver then it is a light of reasonable quality.

 

[fetchmypony]

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I actually need 4m I think but could ask them to make a longer one.

 

[fetchmypony]

If the light posts are metal, & as this is a public place I believe this becomes a special location Bs7671 section 714 applies.
I know it can be expensive but , I think you ought to get the works done professionally & certified. RCD protection clarified.
Over the years there have been a lot of Led floodlights failing & I would say that if the Lamp has a Meanwell driver then it is a light of reasonable quality.

ok, fair enough, I think I've talked myself out of it anyway, it was a nice idea but I'm not confident in myself. thank you