Talk about taking the P***

[Markyd]

Hope everyone is good...Just got back from seeing a client where i have got the job of running a new circuit for some garden power and wall lights....just asked if she had any other quotes and was told that another sparky who is NICEIC had quoted as well but was £150 more for labour,fair enough but he also quoted £400 for NOTIFYING Building Control...WTF

 

[FatAlan]

What’s wrong with that? Two notifiable jobs a year and all costs covered plus some beer money.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I charge £45.00 pounds for LBC, and charge for the jobs has well. so if you think about it nowt comes cheap. When insurances, van and all the other thing that go with it.

 

[Dustydazzler]

400£ is for planning permission , building regs & notifications ?

 

[bigspark17]

I charge £45.00 pounds for LBC, and charge for the jobs has well. so if you think about it nowt comes cheap. When insurances, van and all the other thing that go with it.

why do you charge £45 for LABC? I think your taking the P!!

 

[static zap]

I charge £45.00 pounds for LBC,

To be expected , things are expensive - Like being on a small island (IOW) ,
-- or in space ! --

 

[Markyd]

£400 just to notify on top of the price for the job...one circuit...is out of order

 

[buzzlightyear]

why do you charge £45 for LABC? I think your taking the P

not really ,when you take the consideration of the scams charge do you think it was done for free ,thank about it ,you spend more time doing paper work and extra pc ,paper work hour spent doing the scams LBC ,and all the carp that goes with it .

 

[Andy78]

£400 just to notify on top of the price for the job...one circuit...is out of order

Get the customer to "enquire" to the niceic if that cost is justified.

I have never even thought of charging separately for notification.

 

[buzzlightyear]

£400 just to notify on top of the price for the job...one circuit...is out of order

did you see the quote ?
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I have never even thought of charging separately for notification.

you better start getting on the band wagon then .

 

[Markyd]

did you see the quote ?
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you better start getting on the band wagon then .

Yes......My quote was £600 Labour and to notify building control his was £750 + vat for Labour plus £400 to notify building control
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not really ,when you take the consideration of the scams charge do you think it was done for free ,thank about it ,you spend more time doing paper work and extra pc ,paper work hour spent doing the scams LBC ,and all the carp that goes with it .

One circuit.....one hour to test and notify.....click click click done

 

[Andy78]

you better start getting on the band wagon then .

I'll just keep it included in my quotes. It's not like I'm offering it as optional so no reason to quote it separately.

 

[pc1966]

I'll just keep it included in my quotes. It's not like I'm offering it as optional so no reason to quote it separately.

To me that is how it should be done.

It is a bit like non-business customers have to be given prices including VAT as they have no opportunity to reclaim it. I fully agree that your quoted price has to cover that work, but trying to split out mandatory work as an "option" is very much the Ryanair school of customer-screwing.

 

[ipf]

To me that is how it should be done.

It is a bit like non-business customers have to be given prices including VAT as they have no opportunity to reclaim it. I fully agree that your quoted price has to cover that work, but trying to split out mandatory work as an "option" is very much the Ryanair school of customer-screwing.

Agree. Client. ''I don't want to pay £400 so don't notify it''.

Are you sure the fella's NIC or just coming it? He might have to pay for a private notification.

 

[bigspark17]

not really ,when you take the consideration of the scams charge do you think it was done for free ,thank about it ,you spend more time doing paper work and extra pc ,paper work hour spent doing the scams LBC ,and all the carp that goes with it .

not really, all certs done onsite. Takes 2 mins if that to notify. I think your £45 is not right,but its your business good luck to you for getting it.

 

[pc1966]

I charge £45.00 pounds for LBC, and charge for the jobs has well. so if you think about it nowt comes cheap. When insurances, van and all the other thing that go with it.

I don't think anyone on here is against charging for your time and overheads to do a job. Factoring in £45 as the cost of what you feel is involved in supporting LBC notification is perfectly fine.

What I would object to is an "optional" cost that is not really a choice, not that your overall quote/bill includes your time and other expenses to do it.

 

[buzzlightyear]

really, all certs done onsite. Takes 2 mins if that to notify. I think your £45 is not right,but its your business good luck to you for getting it.

Never had a customer complain yet, lm out to make money not give it away,

 

[bigspark17]

Never had a customer complain yet, lm out to make money not give it away,

we are all diferent

 

[davesparks]

When I started out I used to put issuing the certificate and part P notification as a separate item on quotes with around £40.00 against it, but when someone questioned it I realised that it's daft to make it appear optional when it isn't.

So now all my quotes include the same line about issuing a certificate (plus part P as required, but have £0.00 against it.

 

[ipf]

I suppose it could be included as an item if they insist on a quotation breakdown, as with 'completion certs provided'.

Mind you, I had someone asking for a quote breakdown
last week. Private car dealer so he can stuff that. Probably specialises in breakdowns.
Arthur Daley without the trilby, perhaps?

 

[Dave OCD]

Testing and some form of certification is required on virtually all installation work and notification on a fair few so I just include the time it will take within the main quote, couldn't be simpler.

 

[ArtElectrics]

Hope everyone is good...Just got back from seeing a client where i have got the job of running a new circuit for some garden power and wall lights....just asked if she had any other quotes and was told that another sparky who is NICEIC had quoted as well but was £150 more for labour,fair enough but he also quoted £400 for NOTIFYING Building Control...WTF

Wow thats insane, maybe he has to bribe them every time to get them to sign off on his work LOL

 

[Midwest]

I used to make an admin charge for notification, only a small amount. Can’t recall exactly how much now, but like davesparks said, it was included in the overall invoice.

The actual time taken on the Certsure online site was only a few minutes. But nevertheless it was my time, so the customer pays. I suppose you larger companies, might have a different approach.

Up to a year after I had closed my business, I had about 10 approaches from ex-customers who misplaced their EIC/MIC and Compliance certificates. I sent them copies, and info on how to get copies of compliance. I decided not to charge for this service, for various reasons, one of which was I had previously obtained monies for it.

So I definitely advise you to charge for this part of the work. £400 is a bit steep though

 

[buzzlightyear]

I decided not to charge for this service, for various reasons, one of which was I had previously obtained monies for it.

I tell all customers not miss place them and keep them safe ,if you lose them then I will charge them for a copy for them , is your responsibility.

 

[Midwest]

I tell all customers not miss place them and keep them safe ,if you lose them then I will charge them for a copy for them , is your responsibility.

Certsure used to give them the same friendly advice, in the email contains the certificate. If I had continued, I would of also charged an admin fee, for replacements.

 

[electric al]

I'm all for building some cost in but it seems unfair to hammer any individual with such a small job . Everybody does things their own way but to me it's wrong

 

[pirate]

In my view, if customers have lost certificates, then it is perfectly reasonable to charge for providing a replacement. In my previous life, we often had requests for copies of paperwork that had been provided to clients who subsequently lost them. usually it was their accountant who wanted them. It took time, sometimes a lot of time, searching records, and it seemed to me that we were being treated as some kind of "online storage system"...and, often, if I said ok, but there will be a charge, suddenly they no longer needed the stuff after all...they were just getting me to do the digging, rather than looking themselves.

 

[bigspark17]

I tell all customers not miss place them and keep them safe ,if you lose them then I will charge them for a copy for them , is your responsibility.

do you hand write your certs?

i wouldnt employ you with attitude like that.

 

[ipf]

do you hand write your certs?

i wouldnt employ you with attitude like that.

Came from local authority through the post when I did them....easily lost. What's the problem?

 

[bigspark17]

All done online with pdf free copies, dont know how you can charge some1 to just click resend only takes 1min, maybe in not ruthless enough

 

[buzzlightyear]

do you hand write your certs?

i wouldnt employ you with attitude like that.

no I dont hand write them all done on a pc neater ,I did once ,my attitude is nothing do with charging for time working on my pc and paper work never had a problem.

 

[ipf]

All done online with pdf free copies, dont know how you can charge some1 to just click resend only takes 1min, maybe in not ruthless enough

They still have to be OK'd and sent to the client from the authority, though.....via post. Therefore paper can be lost.

 

[Midwest]

All done online with pdf free copies, dont know how you can charge some1 to just click resend only takes 1min, maybe in not ruthless enough

I used to save a copy to my laptop, when I used the Certsure software. If I recall, you could still access the particular certificate (EIC/MW) when using their web site. You could probably copy & paste it, but I'm not sure if there's some copyright law infringement going on there.

And as I have to maintain my records on my laptop, backing up etc (if I recall, there's some kind of requirement to maintain certificates), I would make a charge, not withstanding copyright.

 

[ipf]

I used to save a copy to my laptop, when I used the Certsure software. If I recall, you could still access the particular certificate (EIC/MW) when using their web site. You could probably copy & paste it, but I'm not sure there's some copyright law infringement going on there.

And as I have to maintain my records on my laptop, backing up etc (if I recall, there's some kind of requirement to maintain certificates), I would make a charge, not withstanding copyright.

A builder phoned me a while back and said I hadn't done a part P on a job a good few years back. They were moving house and needed a copy. I found it on the 'past records' so just sent him the registration number....proof and job done. Didn't charge him, by the way.

 

[Midwest]

A builder phoned me a while back and said I hadn't done a part P on a job a good few years back. They were moving house and needed a copy. I found it on the 'past records' so just sent him the registration number....proof and job done. Didn't charge him, by the way.

Your too nice; bet the builder charged them.