Domestic - What do you normally use?

[123]

If doing a domestic rewire, refurb or additions - what do you normally use to protect the cable?

 

[Leesparkykent]

I’ve voted oval as you say rewire. New build that’s traditional build then capping.

 

[richy3333]

No option for timber frame houses that are plaster boarded, tape and filled.

 

[Octopus]

depends on the build type ............. and what I have to hand - but normally capping

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Capping on bare walls, round conduit if it's chopping in on existing walls.

 

[Midwest]

Wots this all about 123?

 

[123]

I’ve voted oval as you say rewire. New build that’s traditional build then capping.

Perfect, yep was being specific to rewires rather than new build.

No option for timber frame houses that are plaster boarded, tape and filled.

Nope, not really bothered about those.

depends on the build type ............. and what I have to hand - but normally capping

Thanks.

Capping on bare walls, round conduit if it's chopping in on existing walls.

Thanks.

 

[123]

Wots this all about 123?

Shear curiosity coming from the other thread about capping tbh. You are curious about what we use, a couple of posts have made me more curious about what you guys use. Thought a poll would be easier than a mountain of questions, and with most things there are some good responses with information as well.
Will it change how I do things - not likely. Will I learn something from it, possibly.

 

[davesparks]

depends on the build type ............. and what I have to hand - but normally capping

Why? You have to make the chases extra wide just to fit it in.

 

[Octopus]

Why? You have to make the chases extra wide just to fit it in.

Read my post again ....

 

[123]

Read my post again ....

The intent of this poll/thread is not for what you would do on new builds or extensions where you are looking at block walls to start from. It's for what you would use on the rewire/refurb type of jobs...where cables will need chased in regardless of the job being in Northern Ireland/Scotland/Wales/England.

 

[Octopus]

The intent of this poll/thread is not for what you would do on new builds or extensions where you are looking at block walls to start from. It's for what you would use on the rewire/refurb type of jobs...where cables will need chased in regardless of the job being in Northern Ireland/Scotland/Wales/England.

Where does my post say about new builds ...... it doesn’t

Stud walls appear in old buildings too ...

 

[Midwest]

Shear curiosity coming from the other thread about capping tbh. You are curious about what we use, a couple of posts have made me more curious about what you guys use. Thought a poll would be easier than a mountain of questions, and with most things there are some good responses with information as well.
Will it change how I do things - not likely. Will I learn something from it, possibly.

Your not going to go commando 123

 

[123]

Where does my post say about new builds ...... it doesn’t

Stud walls appear in old buildings too ...

Forgot to account for the fact there is always gonna be one of those awkward people.

No idea why anyone would use pvc capping on a stud wall mind, each to their own I guess.

 

[123]

Your not going to go commando 123

Tried that once on a hot summers day and had to use cream for a week after it

 

[Octopus]

Forgot to account for the fact there is always gonna be one of those awkward people.

No idea why anyone would use pvc capping on a stud wall mind, each to their own I guess.

Not being awkward ..... refurbish and rewire come in all shapes and sizes, plus very different build types ......

 

[123]

Not being awkward ..... refurbish and rewire come in all shapes and sizes, plus very different build types ......

Ok, I'm intrigued as to how you do each differently then.

Be it all types of brick from cinder block to breeze block to red brick to the pre cast houses...I'll use round conduit. So mine don't tend to vary at all, even in new builds it would be the same. Every now and again I'd use a length of oval conduit (can't think of the last time I did and what it was for though). I have more recently used 32mm waste pipe recessed into the wall for a wall mounted TV install with the TV equipment on a unit below.

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

for a rewire then conduit, usually round, if wall is of a really hard material that makes chasing difficult then i may use oval conduit as it requires a little less depth.

 

[pirate]

32mm waste pipe...now there's a thing...and a lot of raggling, surely?
Why such a big pipe?

 

[Sparkie30]

I just clip it nicely in the chase. Done

 

[sparksburnout]

Your lots invoices must be three foot long. Why don't you just clip it to the wall and then let the plasterer dot and dab straight over the top, or just chase em in and then let him plaster over it? Must take you 2 months to do a rewire with all that arsing about.

 

[pirate]

but...32mm waste pipe for a TV? 15x38 conduit using flat HDMI cables etc is a much smaller impact and the removeable lid means the bigger plugs/connectors can be easily installed.

 

[123]

32mm waste pipe...now there's a thing...and a lot of raggling, surely?
Why such a big pipe?

Several HDMI cables and they wanted it so if they added or removed equipment they could do so with ease. 25mm conduit a bit too tight for that

 

[telectrix]

If doing a domestic rewire, refurb or additions - what do you normally use to protect the cable?

Group 4.

 

[Midwest]

Up early Tel, or have you not gone to bed yet

 

[Phil Thompson]

Oval all the way, why make extra work by chasing deeper for round conduit.

TVs I’d use trunking chases into the wall.

 

[telectrix]

Up early Tel, or have you not gone to bed yet

got up for a pee. then coffee while dog's let out for pee also.

 

[davesparks]

Read my post again ....

How does it depend on the build type, the question specifically relates to a rewire not newly built walls.

 

[DPG]

Your lots invoices must be three foot long. Why don't you just clip it to the wall and then let the plasterer dot and dab straight over the top, or just chase em in and then let him plaster over it? Must take you 2 months to do a rewire with all that arsing about.

Burnsy's back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DPG]

I have more recently used 32mm waste pipe recessed into the wall for a wall mounted TV install with the TV equipment on a unit below.

Chased in??!!

 

[Midwest]

got up for a pee. then coffee while dog's let out for pee also.

Your not supposed to go near tv screens or phones at this time. I've read reading a boring books, is conducive to returning to sleep. I've tried BS7671, but I ended up flinging it across the room, and waking her indoors. Counting sheep next I suppose.

 

[123]

Chased in??!!

Yep. Would look a little daft if ran surface.

 

[goasis]

What are the advantages to the installer of using conduit over capping? Surely chases have to be deeper and isn't it a faff feeding t&e down it?
If fresh block work is being hardwalled and skimmed do you have to chase oval conduit in a bit?
Always just used plastic capping because that's what those I have worked with use.

 

[wsoppitt]

Flared capping every time. Wall chaser / angle grinder set to sds chisel width, Sds chisel sized slightly wider than capping at minimal depth, quick, easy.

 

[markc123]

Don’t understand this question to be honest.

Every scenario is different, can make a case for them all.

Plastic conduit for me on a re-wire nearly always. Steel conduit if it’s outside the zones.

Don’t really ever use capping unless I absolutley have to, awful stuff.

 

[markc123]

What are the advantages to the installer of using conduit over capping? Surely chases have to be deeper and isn't it a faff feeding t&e down it?
If fresh block work is being hardwalled and skimmed do you have to chase oval conduit in a bit?
Always just used plastic capping because that's what those I have worked with use.

Conduit makes the job more professional & also, it’s easier to re-route cables when the architect suddenly decides it’s Monday morning and he’s going to change the drawings for the 100th time.

 

[goasis]

Conduit makes the job more professional & also, it’s easier to re-route cables when the architect suddenly decides it’s Monday morning and he’s going to change the drawings for the 100th time.

Definitely agree about architects and clients changing their minds, it's usually the day after it's plastered, the boxes could've been on the wall for weeks but as soon as its really inconvenient.... "can we just move that over a bit..."

Not sure I agree that conduit is "more professional" though.

 

[markc123]

Not sure I agree that conduit is "more professional" though.

I just personally feel conduit and a female adaptor is a better jobby than capping and a grommet.

Just me probably.