Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

[littlespark]

there's a picture somewhere on the internet of a drill coming through a wall, through the back of a wardrobe, through a guitar case withing the wardrobe and into the actual guitar which was in the case at the time.

or was that a dream?

 

[loz2754]

An ex colleague of mine drilled through a wall, straight into a hot water cylinder!
That's why he's an EX colleague.

 

[Simon47]

An ex colleague of mine drilled through a wall, straight into a hot water cylinder!

Got himself in hot water !

But more seriously, can any of us truly say we've never had a drilling mishap ? I certainly have some I'm not admitting to - beyond "they happened". Luckily never did anything expensive.

 

[littlespark]

I keep a short bit of cable on my drill box which was caught as I drilled through a wall… just to remind me of what can happen.

It was a redundant cable, buried in plaster and not in a prescribed zone…. So no idea it was there…. But my SDS made a good twisted mess out of it.

 

[DPG]

Quite impressed that people are already checking out tomorrow's forum messages:

 

[oscar21]

Had to take over a job from someone else the other day, didn't want to but the client gives us tonnes of work and this was his own house. The other spark is no longer on the scene and I've already been to one of his jobs that had an earth fault so he just disconnected the cpc's out of the circuit to get over it.

So my first port of call was the consumer unit - BG dual RCD, 2 circuits connected down ring and up ring, sockets 2nd fixed and live and some lights 2nd fixed but not powered yet. First test was see if they were rings, neither were. After a bit of investigating, found this in the utility.

Thats why that circuits not a ring then, live ends. Onto the upstairs sockets and quickly found this.

That was after my temp fix, was the same as the utility before I touched it. 3rd cable was a spur to a socket on the floor below that wasn't working.

I also found this that was live. Not touched anything, that's how I came across it.

So apart from the various death traps the place also looked like this.

not unique to this job but why do so many sparks have to cut and patch so much plaster work after its all been done, apparently he forgot to fit loads of stuff that the client had asked for.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Usually happens the other way around, electrician finishes the second fix and client asks can you just fit another --- number of sockets in these rooms.

 

[7029 dave]

Would like to see how this copper pipe is glanded to the 20A FCU any solid earth continuity?

 

[mainline]

Would like to see how this copper pipe is glanded to the 20A FCU any solid earth continuity?

Obviously, a plumber as well as a spark

Looks rubbish.

 

[James]

Could be double insulated cable inside, if so, do you think there is a requirement for the pipe to be bonded?

 

[James]

Obviously, a plumber as well as a spark

Looks rubbish.

Not a plumber, look at the poor bends in the pipe, if there is one thing a plumber can normally do well, it is bend pipes neatly.

 

[brianmoooore]

No comment on the earthing, but if I couldn't make a better looking offset in copper tube than that, I wouldn't be putting it on public display.

 

[mainline]

Could be double insulated cable inside, if so, do you think there is a requirement for the pipe to be bonded?

It would be single isolated inside the switch.
Back box/switch would be classed as an exposed conductive part.

I wouldn't have thought it is a requirement if the cable is double insulated and the run has no sharp edges.

 

[James]

It would be single isolated inside the switch.
Back box/switch would be classed as an exposed conductive part.

But i was assuming the box was attached to the cpc.
do you think there is a need to bond the pipe, assuming the cable comes into the box double insulated?

Personally i was thinking if the flex was secured inside the back box with a cable clamp then the tube need not be bonded, if it is free to move then i think the tube should be bonded.
but I am open to peoples suggestions.

 

[7029 dave]

But i was assuming the box was attached to the cpc.
do you think there is a need to bond the pipe, assuming the cable comes into the box double insulated?

Personally i was thinking if the flex was secured inside the back box with a cable clamp then the tube need not be bonded, if it is free to move then i think the tube should be bonded.
but I am open to peoples suggestions.

I say yes no difference from a class l light fitting

 

[mainline]

No comment on the earthing, but if I couldn't make a better looking offset in copper tube than that, I wouldn't be putting it on public display.

He wanted it to have the bent with the knee look.

 

[7029 dave]

He wanted it to have the bent with the knee look.

No former used lol

 

[ipf]

Obviously, a plumber as well as a spark

Looks rubbish.

A kinky one, if it was......

 

[davesparks]

I say yes no difference from a class l light fitting

Very different from a class 1 light fitting.

It looks like there is an insulated and sheathed cable inside the pipe so there would be no need to earth it, it would be no different to a cable tray or basket in that respect.

 

[7029 dave]

Very different from a class 1 light fitting.

It looks like there is an insulated and sheathed cable inside the pipe so there would be no need to earth it, it would be no different to a cable tray or basket in that respect.

And that sheathed cable is connected to a metal clad FCU which is connected to the copper pipe so makes it an accessory point. 411.3.1.1 states this very clearly