newly qualified pricing a job

[martin28]

Newly qualified as stated above and pricing a full rewire in a 3 bed empty property.

Rewire to include
new consumer board
11 sockets down stairs
9 sockets up stairs
Total of 26 down lights through the house.
Cooker circuit/extractor
Under cabinet lights
Bathroom extractor fan
Part p test certificate

Everything will be newly rewired,channeled in etc

How much would you charge for Labour minimum and Maximum?

 

[martin28]

Would really help to get some sort of idea. Cheers

 

[loplug]

That's not enough sockets

 

[thekingiam]

look at a website called which to give you an idea of prices in the area you are in.
my advice for first one on own is factor in how much labour time would be involved how much materials what hourly rate you want and how much customers in your area are paying.Also how much your new company needs to keep going.

 

[thekingiam]

you might be better joining the pub as pricing on open forum can give the wrong impretion to the general public and your competitors.

 

[D Skelton]

Minimum of one hundred BILLION dollars!



From now on, every 'can you do my pricing for me' thread that comes up, they're getting this!

Sorry OP, I don't mean to be mean, but only you can work out what you need to make a living

 

[LED Lighting]

As a guide
2 bed-£2,000
3 bed - £3,000
4 bed - £4,000
and so on

extras include shower, utility room, boiler thermostats control cables, well supply, downlights, etc

aim for 3 sockets per bedroom, 5 for normal kitchen and 5 for lounge. (All double)

how ow I started I put a table together on excel, worked price to me with TLC Cat price then added 20% then doubled it. That gave a price for the whole job!

First 2 or 3 expect to make a little less than orgionaly planed, as there will be things like wall plugs, screws, earths leaving, extra cable, damaged screwdriver/drill bits that you didn't count for!

first house I rewired when I set up on my own, I made 20% profit instead of the 45% I planned! now I'm hitting 60%. It's all practise

 

[flowlec1]

If you can't price a job should you be running your own business?

 

[LED Lighting]

I'm currently installing a new build, 3 bed house, 1 on suit, 1 larder, 1 utility room, 1 HUGH kitchen, 1 well supply, 1 backup shower supply (if they go from well water to mains - won't ever happen!), electric underflood heating upstairs, addressable thermostats in each room, combi towel rads

customer agreed at £4,500 and they supply all sockets, light switches, etc.

around 60% profit at moment until they boarded the bloody kitchen roof halfway through first fix - all cables run through kitchen in this 30ft long kitchen in roof only 2ft high!

IM NOT HAPPY!

 

[D Skelton]

If you can't price a job should you be running your own business?

It's a learning curve, I'll give the OP that, but one that he must experience alone I'm afraid. I keep saying this word..... 'Variables!'

 

[vb6951]

If you can't price a job should you be running your own business?

everyone needs to start from somewhere. If you can't say something useful than that, then better be quiet, there's no need be harsh to be new guys mate.

 

[Hawkmoon]

As a guide
2 bed-£2,000
3 bed - £3,000
4 bed - £4,000
and so on

extras include shower, utility room, boiler thermostats control cables, well supply, downlights, etc

aim for 3 sockets per bedroom, 5 for normal kitchen and 5 for lounge. (All double)

how ow I started I put a table together on excel, worked price to me with TLC Cat price then added 20% then doubled it. That gave a price for the whole job!

First 2 or 3 expect to make a little less than orgionaly planed, as there will be things like wall plugs, screws, earths leaving, extra cable, damaged screwdriver/drill bits that you didn't count for!

first house I rewired when I set up on my own, I made 20% profit instead of the 45% I planned! now I'm hitting 60%. It's all practise

Yep, if the earths have all left then you could spend half a day rounding them up again

 

[m top]

If you can't price a job should you be running your own business?

The guys havin a go ain't he give him a break it's not hard just to tell the lad about £3000 is it !!!!!!

 

[SPARTYKUS]

I'm currently installing a new build, 3 bed house, 1 on suit, 1 larder, 1 utility room, 1 HUGH kitchen, 1 well supply, 1 backup shower supply (if they go from well water to mains - won't ever happen!), electric underflood heating upstairs, addressable thermostats in each room, combi towel rads

customer agreed at £4,500 and they supply all sockets, light switches, etc.

around 60% profit at moment until they boarded the bloody kitchen roof halfway through first fix - all cables run through kitchen in this 30ft long kitchen in roof only 2ft high!

IM NOT HAPPY!

There is nothing that cannot be solved in this situation, with a hammer, and the right attitude.

 

[Hawkmoon]

If you can't price a job should you be running your own business?

That's a little harsh, reckon most of us, freshly out, took a time to nail that one.

 

[martin28]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

I have researched through the forum and what I generally find is people charging £50 per electrical point and £30 per light.
The job is through a friend of a friend and when I started talking those figures(3k) he took time to look at the cost of the materials and ask me how many days labour I'd need. I predict 10 days as it's my first full rewire alone. Now he seems to think even at £120 a day thatthat's £1200 for the rewire plus materials. Does that sound Right?

 

[Hawkmoon]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

I have researched through the forum and what I generally find is people charging £50 per electrical point and £30 per light.
The job is through a friend of a friend and when I started talking those figures(3k) he took time to look at the cost of the materials and ask me how many days labour I'd need. I predict 10 days as it's my first full rewire alone. Now he seems to think even at £120 a day thatthat's £1200 for the rewire plus materials. Does that sound Right?

If you calculate your total annual business costs against number of days you will likely work in a year then you may feel you will need to double this

 

[dawsirn]

You'll want more then £120 a day, remember you'll be paying income tax on that too. Wont be hardly worth doing for that rate. and you gotta cover overheads too.

 

[m top]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

I have researched through the forum and what I generally find is people charging £50 per electrical point and £30 per light.
The job is through a friend of a friend and when I started talking those figures(3k) he took time to look at the cost of the materials and ask me how many days labour I'd need. I predict 10 days as it's my first full rewire alone. Now he seems to think even at £120 a day thatthat's £1200 for the rewire plus materials. Does that sound Right?

Way to cheap you need to be charging £200 per day any self respecting spark would be charging aleast this,and you really want a profit at the end of the job to make it worth your while,however beings you are starting out if you are happy with your rates then who am I to tell you any different just a pointer mate.

 

[Engineer54]

Newly qualified as stated above and pricing a full rewire in a 3 bed empty property.

Rewire to include
new consumer board
11 sockets down stairs
9 sockets up stairs
Total of 26 down lights through the house.
Cooker circuit/extractor
Under cabinet lights
Bathroom extractor fan
Part p test certificate

Everything will be newly rewired,channeled in etc

How much would you charge for Labour minimum and Maximum?

Are you by any chance missing something here ??

I maybe wrong, but i thought you now need to provide a linked fire alarm system on complete rewires, or is that only on new builds??

 

[D Skelton]

Way to cheap you need to be charging £200 per day any self respecting spark would be charging aleast this,and you really want a profit at the end of the job to make it worth your while,however beings you are starting out if you are happy with your rates then who am I to tell you any different just a pointer mate.

Bear in mind that a seasoned spark on his own (assuming 8 hour days) would take maybe 7 days to do the job. I know this is a hot topic for debate at the moment as there are a few on here that would get this rewire done in 7 hours

Personally, I'd never tackle a rewire on my own, the cable running alone would take one person 3 days but two people 3 hours!!

200ish a day for how long the job should take is a better way of putting it IMHO, but I agree, ultimately it is up to the OP to decide how much he is happy to earn!

 

[telectrix]

Are you by any chance missing something here ??

I maybe wrong, but i thought you now need to provide a linked fire alarm system on complete rewires, or is that only on new builds??

smoke alarms are optional on a rewire. if client don't want.... always best to push for them, though.

 

[telectrix]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

I have researched through the forum and what I generally find is people charging £50 per electrical point and £30 per light.
The job is through a friend of a friend and when I started talking those figures(3k) he took time to look at the cost of the materials and ask me how many days labour I'd need. I predict 10 days as it's my first full rewire alone. Now he seems to think even at £120 a day thatthat's £1200 for the rewire plus materials. Does that sound Right?

don't forget that at £30 / light, to add £30 per switch. my basic ploy is £500 per room as a starter. so a 3 bed with 3 downstairs rooms comes in at £3000. then i do a points add up. as your post, but shower/cooker etc. at £80. say that comes to £3500. then estimate materials plus £200/day. that might come out at £2900. add the 3 figures and divide by 3. get the average. then add 20% for unexpected, amendments, and general faffing about, and that's the price that goes on the quote.

 

[pepparz]

i would never again do a rewire unless it was my own house, its far too much like hard work for someone of my age and knee condition.

 

[Hawkmoon]

i would never again do a rewire unless it was my own house, its far too much like hard work for someone of my age and knee condition.

For similar reasons I will do them, but not alone.

 

[telectrix]

You'll Never Walk Alone Kop End - YouTube

 

[pepparz]

Have to admit some properties can be scary when alone

 

[martin28]

I think he has in his mind that all trades charge the same per day regardless of whether it's gas, electricity or tiling/plastering

 

[martin28]

So just to clarify. £3000 plus Materials?? Would it £30 per light plus materials Etc?

 

[telectrix]

my figures include standard plastic accessories. e.g. a light fitting is a standard £2 pendant.

 

[zap]

So just to clarify. £3000 plus Materials?? Would it £30 per light plus materials Etc?

The best advice I received from this forum was: Rob yourself a couple of times and you'll soon get the hang of it! ... and it was soooooo true.

 

[Knobhead]

i would never again do a rewire unless it was my own house, its far too much like hard work for someone of my age and knee condition.

Took me 20 years for the first one. Never did get it finished.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Not being funny Tony but thats a bit slow, my fastest is two years.

 

[Knobhead]

Not being funny Tony but thats a bit slow, my fastest is two years.

OK it took a month to do the basics before we moved in. I just kept altering things after that.

The biggest project was my darkroom in the loft. There can’t be many houses with 110V AC, 110V DC and 24V DC RFC’s.

Never did get it how I wanted it. She solved the problem, she divorced me!

 

[Guest569]

Ive got a dartboard in the van I use for pricing ...

 

[micknew]

Ive got a dartboard in the van I use for pricing ...

Your obviously a perfectionist lol

 

[telectrix]

OK it took a month to do the basics before we moved in. I just kept altering things after that.

The biggest project was my darkroom in the loft. There can’t be many houses with 110V AC, 110V DC and 24V DC RFC’s.

Never did get it how I wanted it. She solved the problem, she divorced me!

it's difficult for females to live with genius. took me 3 divorces to suss that out.