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So I have been working on a contract installing 10.5kw showers with B40 MCB's as specified by builders but occasionally a plot reports the shower tripping when having long showers. Hager don't do a 45A MCB but do a 45A RCBO but then its the cost....£££

The cable is ran in uninsulated studwork for around 9metres to the isolator and then around 4metres to go into loft and back down. Is there a way a I can justify a B50?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
 
who in their right mind wants a long shower? in, wet, soap, rinse, out for some beer. 5 minutes tops.
 
I'm with Post #2...
 
I,m with RBS.
 
So I have been working on a contract installing 10.5kw showers with B40 MCB's as specified by builders but occasionally a plot reports the shower tripping when having long showers. Hager don't do a 45A MCB but do a 45A RCBO but then its the cost....£££

The cable is ran in uninsulated studwork for around 9metres to the isolator and then around 4metres to go into loft and back down. Is there a way a I can justify a B50?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated!

Cost ? £20 to do the job properly ?

No idea as only you know the routes and installation methods and the derating factors involved.
 
who in their right mind wants a long shower? in, wet, soap, rinse, out for some beer. 5 minutes tops.
Turn it on, run about for a bit you won't need a towel then, the builder specified the MCB let him sort it Mate, Although wonder how much he knows about electrics, probably specified from memory, oh that's what most shower installs consist of.
 
Turn it on, run about for a bit you won't need a towel then

What are you doing??????? I now have an image of you all wet, running around naked.... I need a 'Delete' button....
 
What are you doing??????? I now have an image of you all wet, running around naked.... I need a 'Delete' button....
just send him an invite to survey the nursing home.:D:D:D.
 
Hi - what size are the conductors? If you're using 6mm then 50A is a definite no. If there's no faults, I'd replace the mcb and see if it stops tripping.
 
Surely if the ‘builder’ specified the 40A MCB and that’s in writing in the design specs he gave you, then the builder is liable for the price of upgrading the MCB to a 45A RCBO. Just show him the cable/wattage calculations that show it needs the higher 45A MCB/RCBO, he then has no choice it to either downgrade the shower or upgrade the MCB/RCBO.
 
going back to the OP. this is a cunning plot to save water. as we all know, i times of low rainfall the country runs out of water, no hosepipes, and let your car/van look like something out of afganistan. fair play to the designer being conscienscious about saving water.
 

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