Advice please, moving to the UK.

[Donkeydaz]

Hey guys.

I am am a self employed electrician from the island of Guernsey, small island in between England and France. I have been going for my self since October last year and charge £24 an hour. The normal going rate over here for an electrician is anything between £25-£40 an hour and working for someone the average wage an hour is about £16 an hour.

In the next month or so I am looking at moving over to the uk to an area south east of England, West Sussex.
I am just curious what is the average going rate for a self employed sparky and what is the average rate working for someone. I haven't looked into anything yet, it's been a kind of last minute decision to move.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated, I will be looking at working for someone when I get there and look into going self employed again.

I am recently qualified 2 years ago and hold all recent qualifications.

Many thanks.

 

[trev]

One word mate.
Don't.

 

[telectrix]

the rates are fairly similar to your island of cows, but jobs are so hard to get over here when eastern europeans are working for £5/hour. i'd seriously have a rethink.

 

[Donkeydaz]

My partner is from the UK and has been on the rock for 9 years and she knew someone would say that! Lol.

Why, is it that bad?

 

[Marvo]

I believe the rates vary greatly depending where you go in the UK.

 

[telectrix]

and we do know where guernsey is. we let hitler have it but then he gave it back.

 

[telectrix]

My partner is from the UK and has been on the rock for 9 years and she knew someone would say that! Lol.

Why, is it that bad?

it's worse than bad, mate. we have domestic installers churned out every 5 weeks by the bucketload. all thanks to part p. and the scams.

 

[Silly Sausage]

Move to Jersey.

 

[Guest77]

If you do come to the mainland be prepared to fight over work with foreign nationals and Electrical Trainee who charge peanuts, I can only echo trevs post 2, He posted exactly what I would have done, the crafty so and so, beat me too it lol

 

[Octopus]

What sort of work do you do and if you come here what do you plan to do? Start up as self employed?

 

[Donkeydaz]

Part P and the scams???

 

[telectrix]

th UK is a sinking ship. at least on guernsey, you're in a lifeboat.

 

[Octopus]

Part P and the scams???

If you want to do domestic work and want to keep the right side of the law you will need to become a member of a "scheme" - Elecsa, Napit, NICEIC, Stroma, BSI

Google them

 

[Donkeydaz]

I will be moving over there in the next 6-8 weeks so will need to get an income ASAP. I have some savings to keep me going for about 6 months. I do all domestic and commercial electrical installations.

 

[telectrix]

Part P and the scams???

read some previous threads via the search button. you'll wish you'd never asked.

 

[Octopus]

I will be moving over there in the next 6-8 weeks so will need to get an income ASAP. I have some savings to keep me going for about 6 months. I do all domestic and commercial electrical installations.

Another one to join the race to the bottom

 

[Marvo]

and we do know where guernsey is. we let hitler have it but then he gave it back.

I wasn't exactly sure so I googled it. Looks like it's nearer to France than the UK....and the post boxes are blue....

 

[Donkeydaz]

Ah yes. I worked for a company over here which were NICEIC and I am Napit registered to do B&Q Installations.

 

[Guest77]

abandon ship, man overboard.

 

[Octopus]

Ah yes. I worked for a company over here which were NICEIC and I am Napit registered to do B&Q Installations.

How does that work? Does it cost much?

 

[telectrix]

OP, have you heard of a small island down south, where your qualifications will be taken into account and your experience appreciated. i'll give you a clue. they drink fosters and tie down kangaroos.

 

[trev]

And if I were 25 again I'd be off like a dirty shirt.

 

[Donkeydaz]

Lol I have heard of down south, but I'm moving with the partner that is from the UK so going over with her and need to make it work however possible.

 

[telectrix]

ha, when i was 18, had the offer of an assisted passage. cost to me £10. hindsight is wonderful.

 

[GMES]

to move to the uk and succeed in the domestic sector, with all the crap at the moment is about as likely as me seeing the queens T1ts.

 

[trev]

to move to the uk and succeed in the domestic sector, with all the crap at the moment is about as likely as me seeing the queens T1ts.[/QUOTE
I've seen em, they're called Charles, Andrew and Edward

 

[Donkeydaz]

I do have her face close to my a$$ every day tho

 

[telectrix]

move the g/f to guernsey. get her a job as a milkmaid ( in between the cooking, washing , ironing, etc.) ... sorted.

 

[R G]

Let us now when you come over , I will book the psychiatric department at the nearest hospital for you....

 

[Donkeydaz]

So what r u guys saying then. If I move over. Don't even bother being a sparky??

 

[Guest111]

if you're young enough then OZ or NZ, I was going to go to NZ via a recruitment drive their government was having some years back,trouble was the cut off age was 42 and I'd just turned 43.Stay away from here,it's that bad even the rats are leaving.

 

[Guest77]

So what r u guys saying then. If I move over. Don't even bother being a sparky??

You will always find work as a sub contractor, if you intend to start your own business though it will be tough, but if you are determined it can be achieved.

 

[Guest111]

So what r u guys saying then. If I move over. Don't even bother being a sparky??

not on domestic mate,even my dog's doing houses lol the market's saturated.

 

[trev]

Come over by all means, just don't think about house bashing.

 

[Donkeydaz]

NZ and OZ are out the question. Family and children ties to the UK so I would never go there. Sub contractor will definitely be an option. What is an average rate for a subby?

 

[telectrix]

ever applied for a job where there's 1 vacancy and 500 applicants? welcome to mainland UK. ( but if your first language isn;t english, it's not worth working. you get a free house, free medical cover, child benefit to send overseas to all your illegitimate kids, immunity from prosecution as you don't understand that thieving is illegal. why bother trying.

 

[Donkeydaz]

That's fine. I hate house bashing lol. Too old for all that...29 years old

 

[telectrix]

normal subbing rate is around £20/hour, but you'll be lucky to get £14. that's how bad it is.

 

[Donkeydaz]

Ok thanks for that info

 

[trev]

That's fine. I hate house bashing lol. Too old for all that...29 years old

Cough.
51 and just finished a stint of rewiring flats in a granny farm. 7 circuits, 4 rooms in and out in a day.

 

[GMES]

If you want to understand what's happening in our once loved industry, this gives a little insight!


Look out for cowboy courses that produce poor tradesmen | Money | The Guardian

 

[R G]

Honestly mate , lots of us have had it hard over the last few years , especially those who have to find their own work , quite a few guys have gone into other things or become specialised in order to pick up certain employed jobs , things are improving overall , but its not gonna kick in yet for us with all the foreigners around , on top of that the population is still wanting everything cheap , round myway customers are getting 5 quotes in on average , and when you quote £200 for a board change and you don't get it , and I've even had customers who want to come down the wholesalers with me or they've got the screwfix catalogue on the table when you go to quote , so its gonna be a while yet before we see anything like before ..

 

[uksparks]

Try moving to Jersey, my sister in law has just bought a new house for £2m there in St Martins, I think people must have money to spend, probably £100 per hour there.

 

[telectrix]

that didn't go far enough, IMO, but it's a start. this should be broadcast to all the scams that accept these short course wonders as competent.

 

[Donkeydaz]

Oh god not good. I do fuseboard changes at the mo for £400 and get them every time. Not good when they have the wholesale books and prices.

Interesting read. I knew of these courses but nothing that u ever see over here on the rock

 

[Donkeydaz]

Definitely, moving to the UK as the partner has a 15 year old boy and his dad is in the UK and all the misses family is UK based. Some how in have to make it work. Love her too much to walk away.

 

[telectrix]

£400 for a CU. i'm on the next plane . as he said before, we're losing these to the cowboys who bung them in for £150. no testing, no certs.

 

[GMES]

Op we must come across like a right bunch of negative moaners, but we are not, it really is hard work here and I would sit down with you partner and have a serious discussion about whether it is the right move for you both.

 

[Donkeydaz]

I was getting a 14 way Hagar split board with 10mcbs for £35 from the wholesaler too.

 

[trev]

I was getting a 14 way Hagar split board with 10mcbs for £35 from the wholesaler too.

Ithink there'll be a few swapping addresses with you and a thriving mail order business coming your way mate.