Or throw the connector away and put a Wago and box on the fitting, a bit like this perhaps, and why anyone would use a non fire rated fitting is beyond me, no matter what the regs say.
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First look, that favoured a badly wired, single way, 3 phase fuse box , fixed to the wall. 🙃
 
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First look, that favoured a badly wired, single way, 3 phase fuse box , fixed to the wall. 🙃
It says Wago 294 on it ?
 
Or throw the connector away and put a Wago and box on the fitting, a bit like this perhaps, and why anyone would use a non fire rated fitting is beyond me, no matter what the regs say.
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I thought of using the click flow connectors but I didn't want to take responsibility for the product when there was a better solution available and if besides I didn't have enough in the van.
 
I thought of using the click flow connectors but I didn't want to take responsibility for the product when there was a better solution available and if besides I didn't have enough in the van.
I've now switched to Quickwire T connectors, they are so much better IMO.
 
I've now switched to Quickwire T connectors, they are so much better IMO.
I am going to try them. Rexel don't list them but I will see if they can get some in or order them online.

What do you like better about them? I assume they are a bit smaller. I usually use the click ones for bathroom mirrors but they are fairly bulky for the space available.

I've been using a few of the switch and load connectors too recently.
 
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I am going to try them. Rexel don't list them but I will see if they can get some in or order them online.

What do you like better about them? I assume they are a bit smaller. I usually use the click ones for bathroom mirrors but they are fairly bulky for the space available.

I've been using a few of the switch and load connectors too recently.
Just so much faster to fit better cord grips much more compact, plug and unplug more easily. I they fit through a 30mm hole too.
 
The people at Quickwire are very friendly. Ask them for a couple of samples. I haven't used the T connectors but the switch and load and splitters are great.
I'm going to try their downlights next time I have a suitable job for them:
 
The one downside being socket only suitable for T&E. I recently used some of the Ricoman downlights they supply with pre-fitted T-Connectors and it's a great system for domestic installations.
I'd seen the quickwire system in the wholesalers for ages but never thought to try it. The joint boxes are so fast to fit. No test points though.
 
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Thanks, @nicebutdim
Crossed messages, but good to learn the Ricoman downlights are good.
 
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The people at Quickwire are very friendly. Ask them for a couple of samples. I haven't used the T connectors but the switch and load and splitters are great.
I'm going to try their downlights next time I have a suitable job for them:

Colour temp selection switch is located under the bexel, which is great, but I found it to be a little fiddly on some of them - it did work on them all after attempting to flick it back and forth for a while.
 
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I'd seen the quickwire system in the wholesalers for ages but never thought to try it. The joint boxes are so fast to fit. No test points though.

Never used the splitter, but fitted a few of their 'switch & load'. Overall their products are excellent and they seem to be keen on developing new products. If it wasn't for my miserly nature, I'd use them much more often.
 
Never used the splitter, but fitted a few of their 'switch & load'. Overall their products are excellent and they seem to be keen on developing new products. If it wasn't for my miserly nature, I'd use them much more often.
The first time I fitted one I couldn't believe how fast it was, just seconds to connect 4 cables in a 4 wire lighting junction box. Maintenance free rated too.
 
I know Quickwire are relative newcomers, and there are quite a few other easy-style connectors out there, but I do think Quickwire will be the new "Wago" for lighting. I also know that many think the cost is quite high, but the time-savings are considerable.
I love new technology like this. Same as I embraced Quinetic many years ago, when the time savings and lack of raggling(chasing) plastering and painting made it a new solution for many cases.
Wireless smoke alarms with radio modules to interlink, and a 10 year life shows the same type of savings...no wiring, chasing, redecoration...might seem expensive, but compared with the alternative, money well spent.
No race to the bottom, guys and girls...spec the good, clever modern stuff...do the job fast and well, no call-backs...and happy clients.
Just my random ramblings...but remember when we had no LED head-torches or cordless drills etc? Now we wouldn't work without them.
The cheapskate boys will always get work, but the quality electricians will always get quality work, and that is what matters in the long term.
 
I'd seen the quickwire system in the wholesalers for ages but never thought to try it. The joint boxes are so fast to fit. No test points though.
I'm not sure about the t connectors but I thought that too about the switch and load. If you look there's little holes in the sides I believe you can get a probe in there. I'll try it later but would be pretty sure thats what it's for.
 
I know Quickwire are relative newcomers, and there are quite a few other easy-style connectors out there, but I do think Quickwire will be the new "Wago" for lighting. I also know that many think the cost is quite high, but the time-savings are considerable.
Quickwire have been around for 5 - 6 years now and while they offer a solution for connecting T&E IMO they don't yet have a total connectivity solution for lighting whether they will in the future remains to be seen
 
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That 'Quickwire T-Connector Plug & Socket' combination looks brilliant!

Great idea to be able to wire up all of the light supplies and then attached the lights after 500V IR testing is done, or to unplug and replace a light at stupid height with minimal fuss.
 
Installing maintenance free connections in an existing ceiling is not the easiest thing to do and I bet you have seen and done worse.
Thats not a maintenance free connection. The Wago box light if not an MF rated enclosure
 
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Thats not a maintenance free connection. The Wago box light if not an MF rated enclosure
TBF, though… WAGOBOX lites are normally used fitting downlights…
Pop the fitting out the ceiling, box comes with it.
Accessible, so no need for MF.
 
They may not be rated maintenance free, but they meet :BS 5733 which defines a maintenance free accessory as: “An accessory which does not require further inspection, testing or maintenance after installation in a circuit, and which incorporates screwless terminals and cable clamps to secure any associated cables"
 

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