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[Baddegg]

It works......it’s fine......just need someone to sign it off.....

 

[Toneyz]

That there is a total abortion, @Marcus Vaughan
I can’t see one regulation that HAS been adhered to.
The gray sheath is inside the enclosure though

 

[-Matt]

Interesting one I found the other week, nice laser cut and labelled front panel (sorry no picture), yet they couldn't think of a better solution for the earth and neutral bars other than a choc block!

 

[casperLennon]

Is the rcd not serving any purpose? This picture is really hurting my eyes and head.

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Can we actually make a list of what's wrong? It's kinda tricky because some of the errors have mistakes in them. It's non-compliant in so many ways, perhaps more interesting is to work out where the real danger lies.

If I'm reading Marcus's comments right, it's fed from a 15A BS3036. On paper the cable is not rated for that (nor for 'power' circuits of any rating) but in truth it would be very hard to overheat it badly on a 15A fuse unless it's fully embedded in thermal insulation. Seems the fuse hasn't blown, so although the Ib, Iz and In are all the wrong way about, it's probably not going to hurt anyone.

The MCB rating is irrelevant - if the incoming cable isn't going to melt, the outgoing ones won't either. There are lots of legacy circuits without RCD protection; not connecting it doesn't make it any more dangerous than those. The colour code doesn't make any difference until you start modifying or testing. The leccy doesn't care which wire is which. Grommets, bare copper, chock block, meh.

Which brings us to that earth bar, sorry, neutral bar. The one used for the neutrals because the lines are in the proper neutral bar. It's connected to the case, although the outgoing earths are connected to earth, it seems. This gets my vote as the main risk here - one loose connection and that casing goes live. (TN-C is also prohibited, FWIW).

Thankfully that is easy to solve - take the link out, job's a good'un!

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

Is the rcd not serving any purpose? This picture is really hurting my eyes and head.

Nope.
Not connected.
Purely ornamental!

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

Thanks Lucien and all.
I’ll be back there today.
I’m determined to find the origin of that feed and disconnect it. Yes it is fed from a 15A 3036, which starts at 2.5mm but somewhere steps down to 1.0mm. The old 3036 board is almost back to back with this new board, and I did manage to get a hole through the wall from one location to another ready for a new feed....
Onwards with a day of moving furniture, lifting carpets and boards etc. Their 10yr old son had a near panic attack last night when he couldn’t turn his PlayStation on.
Meanwhile an image of a socket wired in 1.0mm 3 core..

 

[Dustydazzler]

Looks like a new fitted and tiled kitchen , that’s going to a right badger to rewire

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

Looks like a new fitted and tiled kitchen , that’s going to a right badger to rewire

A right Badger - I like that - might use when talking to the customer. And yes - it is a right Badger. Laminate floors, terrible access from above. Jeez.

 

[Lucien Nunes]

Might be a silly question but what were you actually there to do? Was this a complete surprise for the homeowners or did they expect trouble?

 

[Strima]

When was the garage conversion done? Before doing anything it might be worth speaking to building control regarding a dangerous installation. This cowboy needs stopping.

 

[lozarus]

Replaced a fly zapper today, found this whilst removing the old one - fuses are "overrated" anyway (hoho!).

 

[Dustydazzler]

That's one way to stop the staff turning it off...

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

Might be a silly question but what were you actually there to do? Was this a complete surprise for the homeowners or did they expect trouble?

Add a socket!

Given the choice of 2 boards I opened up the one with the RCD first.

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

When was the garage conversion done? Before doing anything it might be worth speaking to building control regarding a dangerous installation. This cowboy needs stopping.

I tried to persuade the customer to go down that route, but he wasn’t interested. Just wants its fixed. Shame. I agree. This person is probably doing the same elsewhere right now.
He’s brickwork is good though..,

 

[Marcus Vaughan]

When was the garage conversion done? Before doing anything it might be worth speaking to building control regarding a dangerous installation. This cowboy needs stopping.

About a year and a half ago.

 

[Strima]

I tried to persuade the customer to go down that route, but he wasn’t interested. Just wants its fixed. Shame. I agree. This person is probably doing the same elsewhere right now.
He’s brickwork is good though..,

Sweet baby Jesus and all the orphans, what the **** is that mess? Thing is, customers allow them to get away with this crap in the first place, if they didn't these cowboys wouldn't last long and end up working in Tescos stacking shelves...

Either that or the customer did it themselves and won't admit it.

 

[Dustydazzler]

I tried to persuade the customer to go down that route, but he wasn’t interested. Just wants its fixed. Shame. I agree. This person is probably doing the same elsewhere right now.
He’s brickwork is good though..,

That can not be the finished job surely

That is rough as ----

 

[DPG]

It's probably getting rendered.

 

[Strima]

It's probably getting rendered.

Looking at the brickwork it's about 15mm out at the top, would be a pain to render properly.