EICR Inspection schedules for larger installations (>100A)

[Sparky Ninja]

Hi all.

I am in the middle of reviewing some fairly large EICR's - colleges and schools etc - and the condition report inspection schedule as per Appendix 6 has been used.
It's not been used properly as a lot of it has been N/A'd when clearly it shouldn't have.

Anyway's my query is this, for larger installations that are bigger than the EICR inspection schedule claims to be for (domestic and similar up to 100A), do you still use this document or do you not use a schedule at all as the IET have suggested. Or have you created your own?

This is from the wiring matters magazine

This particular schedule is aimed at smaller electrical installations such as domestic and small commercial type premises where the supply is rated no more than 100 A single-phase or three-phase.
Originally the intention was to have a series of schedules aimed at larger installations to complement this schedule; however, the comments from industry during the DPC period voiced concerns over the amount of paperwork that could be generated if this approach was adopted.
Therefore, the decision was taken to only have the domestic and similar schedule.
For larger installation arrangements a list of example items requiring inspection has been included in Appendix 6.
The intention is for this list to be used as the basis of the inspection for a larger installation arrangement. The key difference being no dedicated schedule is provided.
This will need to be agreed between the client and person doing the work as to how the inspection aspect is documented.

 

[spark 68]

Hi Widdler,

As far as I can gather, the intention is/was to use a similar format to the older 17th ed PIR for installations greater than 100A, with seperate Sotr's etc. for multi DB installs, but still no C4.

They changed to EICR's mainly for the domestic and smaller (100A or less) installs, I think this was to make it easier for the public/landlords etc., where as the larger installs tend to have technical personnel involved.

It still looks a bit half assed to me.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

There's nothing wrong with using the below 100A schedule, as long as it's filled out correctly.
The article in Wiring Matters is the official version of why that particular schedule, and no others were produced.
In reallity, it's nothing more than a check list for inexperienced inspectors, which since the advent of 2391, there seem to be an abundance of.
The assumption being, that any inspector undertaking a large commercial/industrial inspection, will have the experience to devise their own schedule.

 

[Sparky Ninja]

The assumption being, that any inspector undertaking a large commercial/industrial inspection, will have the experience to devise their own schedule.

So has anyone devised their own?

 

[mogga]

Personaly I use main schedule and list faults page 2 the schedule for every db on large installations ends up making obs n recs look like the dogs written it ,typed it
Amteck use to have a nice "move up ,move down" function on obbs n recs page but no longer has this making it harder to keep things nice n orgimanised Iv gotta take notes wait till end then sort into order befor typing in

 

[plugsandsparks]

I use the Amtech as a base, ditch all the crazy schedules. Client gets first couple of pages and every DB gets the circuit lists and test results. I write up my own c1, c2 etc using my own language as the amtech is quite honestly not fit for purpose.
Think they lost the plot here.
As long as the necessary info is there to identify what has been checked and exactly what has been found that needs attention and its clear to the client exactly what it is and where, all is good