Hi guys I just fitted a fan light in a bathroom. I read the instructions (which I can't find now) and I'm sure it said the light and the fan need to work together and shouldn't be separately wired. In other words the transformer was to be wired off the fan unit. It's one of those down-lights with a fan exhaust round it all in the same unit. The customer wants me to wire it so they can turn the fan off without turning the light in the middle off. There are four other down-lights that I put in which are independent of the fan. Anyone got any experience with these? I am fairly sure the instructions said not wire it the way I've been asked to. I can double check as I have another set of instructions at home but anyone know off the top of their heads? Ta.
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Mork
Your fine, the light section of it I assume is on a separate transformer if so whats the prob?
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Kate
No the unit works together in my experience. What I do is wire the fan/light combo unit off a separate pullcord.
Cant they live with using the four other downlights all the time, and just the fan/light unit when they shower?
Cant they live with using the four other downlights all the time, and just the fan/light unit when they shower?
I would tend to say that the manufacturers instructions override other considerations, it is possible that the light may overheat the fitting if the fan is not running (unlikely but possible). If the instructions say you must not wire them separately then that is what I would do.
Having said that if the wiring is accessible you could fit a switch on the fan part of the unit so that the fan can be switched off if required, but if that separate switch is not used then light and fan run together.
Failing that if they do not want a fan at the light replace it with a light unit only! Perhaps with a standard extract fan elsewhere!
Having said that if the wiring is accessible you could fit a switch on the fan part of the unit so that the fan can be switched off if required, but if that separate switch is not used then light and fan run together.
Failing that if they do not want a fan at the light replace it with a light unit only! Perhaps with a standard extract fan elsewhere!
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Mork
I think we need to know what make the unit is?
the 12V light is fed via a tranny from the fan supply. the only way to do what they want is to fit a separate switch to turn the light on/off. edit: jusr re-read. they want to turn the fan off and have the light on? tell them NO!. these customers really get up your nose, wanting stupid arrangements. ask them if they want the fridge light to be on with the fridge turned off.
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Kate
Love it!! You have a knack for taking what I'm thinking and wording it beautifully!
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Kate
Well if that happens il start a protest!!
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Guest55
looks like tel's got a female admirer !
snigger ;-)
snigger ;-)
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Octopus
The best thing to learn from this is not to fit these awful items. Hardly any suck and transformers to go wrong!
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Guest55
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Kate
We are all on a chat site!
That's what you think this is all a cover up
less of the "old", you seaside spark
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Kate
Ooo mysterious. Cover up for what?
Just put it this way telectrix is North Korean. Shhhhhhhhhh
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Stroppy
I agree. Dreadful things. My dead cat has more sucking power than these crappy things, and the lamp is a 'special' one that according to the instruction must not be replaced with anything else, so will not match the colour of any other lights in the room, and flickers like hell. I wouldn't wee on one of these things if it was on fire (after safe isolation, of course!).
Hi people sorry for my late reply. I've checked the instructions and the unit must work together ie the light can't work independently of the fan. The kitchen and bathroom fitter I'm subbing for sans I'm being a bit ---- and "all his other sparks just wire them independently, I'm just being ---- because I'm new" well rules is rules right? It may be a safety reason and probably is as to why the manufacturer says to keep them together. It's a manrose showerlite (halogen) I feel I should stick to my guns but would like other people's take on the matter. He's saying if I won't do it he will. Thanks for all your replies so far.
well, make sure it's noted on your cert. that it's wired correctly in accordance with BS7671 ( and by default, also manufacturers instructions) and you take no responsibility for any results from alterations by idiots. does this kitchen fitter expect you to tell him how to cobble kitchen units together? tell him to stick with what he knows about ( keep his mind occupied for a few seconds).
Just to let you guys know. After contacting Manrose they advised that the reason they stipulate that the lumens transformer is wired from the fan unit and not desperately from the junction box is due to the fans cooling effect in the halogen bulb which on its own is capable of mealtime the plastic fitting and could start a fire. They also advised as you would expect that the cooler LED version can be wired separately. So that's my solution and everyone is happy. Thanks for all your replies. This forum is a great tool.
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