Garage electrics help needed please

[Wilko]

^^^ Wot M said

 

[Pete999]

Jeez what a mess, words fail me, whoever did that wants shooting

 

[Specialist]

Good pictures, but think Murdoch said it all in 2 small words.

No seals on the service head ?

So he's cut the Earth and used an ordinary connector wrapped in tape ?.

 

[Jacko]

Yeah it looks like he has done that. I'm not even sure if he has used a connector block, I haven't touched it to take the tape off!

Does the main incoming earth need to be continuous? With no joints etc

 

[Pete999]

What's with the red tape on the Live outgoing conductor? also ruined the IP rating of the isolator.

 

[Midwest]

The warning notice did a lot of good. Get your mate to get a competent electrician in, even if it's just to disconnect that mess.

PS; the 'tails' to the CU look a bit suspect as well. Nicely fashioned hole for them as well.

 

[Octopus]

That picture should be submitted to PE "caught on camera"

 

[Midwest]

Looks like the 'seal fairy' paid a visit as well.

 

[Specialist]

@Jacko If he was going to cut into the Earth like that, he should have used a proper block to make the connection. But with the way everything else has been done, it's only to be expected.
That 2.5 has no protection at all, so in the event of a fault the cable may well fry.
There's no RCD protection so in the event of someone touching something that has become live, basically they're going to get Electrocuted. (Read as: Likely DEAD).

One of the boys asked where he'd left his horse, to be honest I wouldn't insult Cowboy's by calling him one.

 

[telectrix]

camel might be more appropriate than horse.

 

[Specialist]

What's with the red tape on the Live outgoing conductor? also ruined the IP rating of the isolator.

I'd shudder to think what's under that tape mate,

 

[telectrix]

 

[Specialist]

@Dan : Apologies If this goes against forum rules, please remove if it does.

@Jacko : Tell your mate to try contacting one of the following. Bowen Hopkins or Gem Electrical, both in Swansea & both top quality firms.
They can get one of their boys to come make it safe & then price for a pucker job.

Would love to see the lie sheet (sorry certificate) for what's been done so far, I could do with a good laugh.

 

[SparkyChick]

I'm lost for words... well, that's not true, I just can't say what I'm thinking because I'd get banned!

 

[Specialist]

I'm lost for words... well, that's not true, I just can't say what I'm thinking because I'd get banned!

Think that goes for all of us Kiddo. Some of the things people do, just beggars belief.

 

[SparkyChick]

It really does beggar belief. I mean is this guy actually advertising/working/charging people as an electrician? If so the guy needs to be stopped before he kills someone and if he's a member of a scheme, he should be reported without delay.

Some of the things I thought when I saw it were like "Wonder if he did a short course? If so, cheers bud, you're the kind of muppet (insert your own expletive here, but my choice was the c word I keep in reserve for the lowest of the low) that gets those of us who go that route and go on to do decent, safe regs compliant work a very very bad name. Is he just a chancer? How long before he kills himself or someone else? How many other acts of butchery has he committed? He must be completely devoid of a moral compass to be out there selling his services as an electrician."

I could go on, but I'd only be repeating what everyone else has said. The guys a joke and that needs sorting before it kills someone.

On the flip side, if someone could get me his customer list I think I could make a nice living tidying up after him

 

[Pete999]

It really does beggar belief. I mean is this guy actually advertising/working/charging people as an electrician? If so the guy needs to be stopped before he kills someone and if he's a member of a scheme, he should be reported without delay.

Some of the things I thought when I saw it were like "Wonder if he did a short course? If so, cheers bud, you're the kind of muppet (insert your own expletive here, but my choice was the c word I keep in reserve for the lowest of the low) that gets those of us who go that route and go on to do decent, safe regs compliant work a very very bad name. Is he just a chancer? How long before he kills himself or someone else? How many other acts of butchery has he committed? He must be completely devoid of a moral compass to be out there selling his services as an electrician."

I could go on, but I'd only be repeating what everyone else has said. The guys a joke and that needs sorting before it kills someone.

On the flip side, if someone could get me his customer list I think I could make a nice living tidying up after him

Well said Sparkychick, be careful of any blaspheming,

 

[Specialist]

Take Deep breaths SC & just keep repeating: It's people like this lowlife, that make people like me look really good

 

[Octopus]

The standards have dropped, all the trades do electrics and the schemes do nothing.........

But those of us who have pride do the right thing and get most of our work from recommendation.....

 

[Pete999]

Take Deep breaths SC & just keep repeating: It's people like this lowlife, that make people like me look really good

Just wondering what c word SC was on about, clown, clot, comedian, can't think of any more c words, at least none printable

 

[Specialist]

Think it's the unprintable one Pete

 

[Pete999]

Think it's the unprintable one Pete

Yes thought as much

 

[Specialist]

Naughty SC that's a bad word

 

[SparkyChick]

Naughty SC that's a bad word

I know But I like it

 

[Pete999]

I know But I like it

I know the word SC was on about Catastrophe.

 

[Midwest]

Twos on a job once, where a bunch of us were sat in a large car, with the female boss unseen in the back. When were joined by a colleague who lent on my drivers door open window, and started a tirade of abuse about a non present colleague. Before my facial expressions could stop him, he finished off with the 'C' word. To which the boss lent forward, and commented on his use of expletives. Poor chap, didn't quite know what to do or say.

She particularly didn't like the 'C' word.

 

[SparkyChick]

I'm afraid I acquired a somewhat foul mouth when I was working for a company that had quite a few ex-squadies on staff where the f word was used in all it's versatile forms.

It's not a trait I'm proud of, but there are some things that just push me over the edge and the dark side of my vocabulary just seems to pop out. Lazy bad sparks and bad drivers are the two most popular triggers at the moment

 

[Specialist]

To me that one 4 letter word, is the most hated in the English language.
I hear it so often from the scum next door, that it really grates.
Know what you mean about squaddies SC, they can be a bit colourful

 

[telectrix]

"work" is a 4 letter word. as in

work is the scourge of the drinking class.

 

[Specialist]

Steady on now tel, dirty language like that could get you banned

 

[Dave OCD]

Well that has to be the ultimate insult, calling anybody a Conservative.

 

[telectrix]

Well that has to be the ultimate insult, calling anybody a Conservative.

what a Cunning Stunt.

 

[Toneyz]

Looks like the 'seal fairy' paid a visit as well.

The seal not being there is the least of the worries

 

[Midwest]

The seal not being there is the least of the worries

Arrgh but, they'll be hell to pay, for messing around with the DNO's stuff

 

[telectrix]

Arrgh but, they'll be hell to pay, for messing around with the DNO's stuff

as if they give a shyte.

 

[Specialist]

Strange: The OP seems to have melted away 2 days ago.

 

[Toneyz]

as if they give a shyte.

Has anyone herd of a electrician being prosecuted /fined for cutting a seal. I bet a majority of electricians on here are competent to cut seal pull fuse and replace meter tails etc.

 

[DPG]

Strange: The OP seems to have melted away 2 days ago.

I've got my own theory about this one. I think others may be thinking along similar lines.

 

[Pete999]

I've got my own theory about this one. I think others may be thinking along similar lines.

Yes DPG the same as you

 

[Specialist]

I've had that theory since day one, my missus reckons i'm too suspicious.

 

[DPG]

Your missus reckons I'm too suspicious. That's even more worrying. Lol.

 

[Pete999]

My Missus reckons I'm Gods gift, but I'm not boasting about it, I have to agree with Her though.

 

[Midwest]

as if they give a shyte.

 

[Des 56]

Strange: The OP seems to have melted away 2 days ago.

It says he was logged on at 4: 22 today

Maybe he was surveying the carnage he caused with our collective indignation of a fantasy well presented

 

[Specialist]

Quite possibly Des. When I was looking at it, it seemed more the sort of work a bad apprentice or mate would do.
If he thought he was going to get accolade or approval from us, afraid he was sadly mistaken.
I've got nothing against an apprentice doing a little side job like changing a light fitting or socket etc. But when you get to things like this, leave it to people who are capable.

 

[Des 56]

What always makes me shake my head with Domestic electrics
I have no problem with anyone doing unpaid work in their own home so long as they research what it is they are supposed to do,then make a half decent attempt at getting it right

What does irritate is the clueless not knowing they are clueless
These are the dangerous Muppets,whether its an apprentice,fast tracked spark or the Diy ones who "can do electrics"

 

[Specialist]

Yep I know what you mean, a friends husband is so clueless with electrics it's painful.
Sadly he thinks he's gods gift to the electrical trade. He's so bad that I've had to tell her, call someone else next time he screws up. I'm done with clearing up his mess.

 

[Risteard]

In domestic it's called a Consumer unit or CU not a DB.

Have to disagree there - a consumer unit is a type-tested distribution board so DB is also correct. In fact the term DBO (Distribution Board for use by Ordinary Persons) is now used in harmonised documents. I never use the term CU.

 

[Risteard]

"work" is a 4 letter word. as in

work is the scourge of the drinking class.

A fan of Oscar Wilde?

 

[telectrix]

how about DDB... domestic distribution board.