just come from job what,s wrong with this

[pete555]

hi everybody happy new year

just been to look at this

customer as had new DB fitted in extention
the electrician who is part p reg with scheme begining with N is also polish

from outside meter (no isolator)
through wall in 25mm tails angled up wall at approx 45 degrees with tails and earth to top of wall about 2.5mts across top of wall approx 500mm into DB

cables fatned in wall with all round band and plastered over in wall no protection
customer not happy contacted scheme and inspector visited

says it complies with regs and is not a safety issue

customer as hit tails with nail while putting up picture did not expect cable to be there



local supply authority just put power back on repaired fuse and gone never asked what caused it

 

[pete555]

arranged by the spark he contacted the inspector while on site by phone

it,s typical rip off

invoice of course a cash job because it was cheaper

i think they have contacted NAPIT already but it,s upto the customer to complain

 

[Octopus]

Who got the sparky on to the job?? The builder or the home owner?

If its the builder then he has to pay

If its the homeowner - well they got what they paid for.

 

[pete555]

home owner via a recommend from somebody

not sure who is putting the work right i was only asked to look at it because he had blown the main fuse

 

[Zeno]

Many thanks Zeno

Just to add I thought I was paraniod but reading your link on Part P re conflict of interests Steve Lomax stated what I have been saying for years that there is more incentives through sale not to reject any application for fear of losing the members fee.

Infact the more i read this the more I am surprised they have not been taken to court and as for self certification why do we need them hence why Edinburgh council accepts certification by enquiry ie tester calibration certs and a copy of your SJIB card on the certification because they dont want to get taken to court for forcing people to join a scheme that like the 17th has no legal standing

Don't worry about thinking that you are paranoid, the dodgy to corrupt things that are going on, are way beyond what appears in the forums.

Our Trade is been systematically screwed over the last seven years.



So where is Risk Based Assessment, pay for it every three years, it was supposed to be introduced in 2009!

Then it was approved June 2012, they are just squeezing every last bit out of while they can.

Anyone paid for an assessment they have not received.

Anybody been moved from half day to full day assessments by a Scheme, for Safety reasons of course!

Has anyone seen the words "Competent or Electrician" on a Certificate from a Scheme, they know what they have done.

 

[oldtimer]

Yep there are people on here who think I just like Schemie bashing but thats not the case I believe in good customer focus and service yet in my view they are out of control and people dont get it YOU PAY THEM so as far as I am concerned I would want to see them work for their money. On paper they are a good idea in reality they are sales driven and they have too much power plus like you I realise that there is more going on ie certification being signed off under a scheme number and its not the member doing the job. I know a guy who is with a scheme and in his words its a bloody racket but as he say he has to pretend that it works ok because his living depends on it plus they want a good chunk of hi money with nothing in return ie policing and ejecting members abusing the system and as pointed out there are guys who are registered and getting work through the scheme system who as he put it would not allow them to fit a plug top for him.

So am I a bigot NO but I expect people to do their jobs plus Joe Public is latching on it is a con the same as the PAT testing and dont get me started on the scheme badged £80 EICR more evidence that our trade is a joke