Landlord supply help!

[mike2790]

Hello everyone,

I got a call last night from a bloke asking me what he can do regarding a landlord supply. He is the landlord himself and told me he has a longstanding arrangement with a tennant whereby the fire detection is all supplied via her CU. He would simply compensate her by paying her a set amount of money to her eaither every month/week (i forget which). The landlord tole me he has since had an unrelated visit from the dno who noticed this and have told him it is illegal to do this and he should have a landlord supply which feeds accessories, fire protection and lighting in all communal areas. Is this right of them to say that it is illegal if the landlord and tennant have this agreement as the electricity is all getting paid for in the end and the tennant is getting overcompensated for supplying the electricity for the fire detection?

As of yet i havnt been to the flat to look at the actual set up. All i know is the above and that there is 3 flats.

Just want a bit of advice before i go to the job and give out wrong information.

Also if it is illegal and i do end up having to install a seperate landlord meter to feed communal circuits, can anybody recommend a decent place to pick them up?

thanks in advance,

Michael.

 

[eollou88]

Hello mate,
Regarding the landlord supply i think this is correct the landlord supply must control emergency lighting, fire alarm system, security system. I think this is due to the tennant being able to isolate the safety items which feed the flats. I'm about 90% sure I remember discussing this with 1 of my follow colleagues.

 

[mike2790]

thanks for the reply, eollou88. that makes sense what you said, i'll have to go and have a look at whats what. do you happen to know if im allowed to fit a new meter to feed the safety circuits or would that be upto the dno? i have experience in installing and altering metering arrangements etc but just dont know if this is a matter for an electrician ie. me or the dno. thanks again

 

[ayjay]

all u need to do is purchase a meter and a small cu then divert the circuit cables to the new cu
ideally fit it inside a locked cupboard
andy

 

[GLENNSPARK]

i`v had a similar one recently...at a mill in bradford....
theres a switchroom......but all the communal lighting and emergencys were pulled of ov one of the panels on the third floor (tennant).....
anyway the mill belongs to a friend of mine.....
i have told him he needs a seperate supply for these services coming direct from the switchroom....

 

[Golden_Boy]

all u need to do is purchase a meter and a small cu then divert the circuit cables to the new cu
ideally fit it inside a locked cupboard
andy

surely this would reqire a completly seperate metered supply installed by a supplier, read and charged seperatly to the tennants supplies ?

 

[dim_bulb]

No where the supply comes into the building, but might be tricky getting the circuits from her flat to the main meter

 

[thomas-1981]

The dno isn't responsible for the metering equipment so I don't know why they feel the need to raise the point.
And if it was the supplier then their only responsible up to the tails leaving the meter.
I can only think if the tennant doesn't pay the bill and the fuse is pulled there goes all the safety circuits.

 

[SYKRAPS]

I am surprised that the dno would either notice this was the case or know the legislation behind it. Surely it is a consumer situation, allthey usually care about is putting the prices up...

 

[acvc]

I came across three flats / subdivided house / one landlord yesterday where the fire detection and alarm system was newly installed this summer, but fed from the consumer unit / supply to one of the flats. So this is not permitted (BS5839? is it?).