lost indenture Where do I look for help

[lippy]

Hi Guys, I served an apprenticeship with MANWEB (Merseysdie and North Wales Electricity Board),between 1978 and 1982, got my papers (indentures) and after a short time left the industry.

I am now returning to the industry and a lot has changed with regard to regulation and training etc.
I have got my 17th edn regs and insp and testing up to date, but to get an ECS card, it appears I need to have my indentures to prove my training which is understandable, I believe the first Mrs LIPPY may have burnt the papers ......... spiteful cow !!!!!----- another story tho,

I have been able to get all my C&G certificates reissued, but as manweb was bought out by Scottish power in the 1990s I don't know where to look for copies of my indentures. Thus far I have done the following.

Contacted MANWEB pensions........ they confirm that I was employed by the company, but that's as much as they can say as I cashed in my pension contributions in 1984

Contacted Scottish Power.............They don't keep records that far back.

I have gone to the ECS who agree to check their archives as their computer system doesn't have any record and this will cost me £60.00. I don't have a problem with that, however, if they cant find me in their records where do I go from here ???????

My understanding is that I will have to do and NVQ over 2 years ??????? I don't think so !!!!!!!!

Any advice appeciated

Cheers fellas LIppy.

 

[itselectric]

It may be a long shot, but would the college not have records of your attendances and courses.
I wouldn't hold out too much hope, but worth a try.

 

[SPARTYKUS]

What about hunting down your old boss & getting him to sign a statement.


Then its up to them to disprove it

 

[telectrix]

ask geordiespark. when he loses his dentures, they're usually in a tumbler on the bedside table. :rofl:

 

[lippy]

Thanks fellas..... I have got my C&G certificates and sadly most of my old bosses will be 6ft under by now. The JIB have been unable to help and so ends the lesson...... keep this sort of stuff well and truly secure and make copies. I defo wont be doing an NVQ to prove myself so it looks like freelance .. never mind

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Lippy

yeah just crack on!!

you have probably forgotten more than many know. Hope it goes well.

May the Force (aka mass x acceleration) be with you....

 

[Knobhead]

The company I served my time with had two copies of the indentures. One you were given on starting, it was unsigned. The second was given to you on competition signed on behalf of the company, your guardian and yourself. They were yours not the companies, they didn’t keep a copy.

As has been said, if you can, contact your old boss for a statement. It’s the only way I can think of.
I’d need a medium to contact mine. The company would confirm if asked that you had successfully completed your indentured time.

I know it’s of no help to you, but please anyone else. Never loose sight of the papers, they are so important.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

The company I served my time with had two copies of the indentures. One you were given on starting, it was unsigned. The second was given to you on competition signed on behalf of the company, your guardian and yourself. They were yours not the companies, they didn’t keep a copy.

As has been said, if you can, contact your old boss for a statement. It’s the only way I can think of.
I’d need a medium to contact mine. The company would confirm if asked that you had successfully completed your indentured time.

I know it’s of no help to you, but please anyone else. Never loose sight of the papers, they are so important.

completion and lose.

Just a bit of friendly observation, we'll blame it on the re-growth.

Peace. :sunny:

 

[Silly Sausage]

Just for you Voltz!

Can You Control Your Inner Pedant?

 

[KAS1]

Mine were all ripped into little pieces by my ex-wife, however as my apprenticeship was with a JIB company and I had received my apprenticeship completion diploma certificate which also was ripped to pieces, I was lucky the JIB had all the records. However my now wife is brilliant at jigsaws and we stuck all the pieces together and scanned them. lol

 

[Farmelectrics]

If you have all your city and guilds papers 17th and testing then why won't the jib give you a card

 

[VoltzElectrical]

Just for you Voltz!

Can You Control Your Inner Pedant?

thanx blud, i tuk the test and got 29% - ur strict az a skool teecha. so fukit and joyn the gang innit bruv?

 

[Knobhead]

completion and lose.

Just a bit of friendly observation, we'll blame it on the re-growth.

Peace. :sunny:

The brains getting cold and not functioning correctly!

It’s going to get even colder, SWMBO has decreed more hair has to go! Silly really, I used to have my hair in a tarbush, it never bothered me then.

 

[telectrix]

careful. look what happened to sampson.

 

[KAS1]

If you have all your city and guilds papers 17th and testing then why won't the jib give you a card

correct me if I'm wrong but us older sparks who were time served need to of completed an apprenticeship to become qualified which included passing our C& G exams. As the OP said he shouldn't now have to do a Electrical Trainee course as he has the best qualifications IMO