NEW circuits into non amm3 DB. ?????

[Dozer 73]

If I was to wire an extension on a house , and the DB does not meet amendment 3 , where do I stand adding new circuits into this DB , is it ok or should it be changed to Amm 3 DB
Know I should know the answer to this but hey ho were not all perfect

 

[Octopus]

what do YOU think?

 

[Spoon]

And what would be an alternative to replacing the entire CU?

 

[Spoon]

Not trying to be a pain @Dozer 73 but give us your thoughts. It's good to learn things.

 

[telectrix]

If I was to wire an extension on a house , and the DB does not meet amendment 3 , where do I stand adding new circuits into this DB , is it ok or should it be changed to Amm 3 DB
Know I should know the answer to this but hey ho were not all perfect

no problem in connecting new work into a non-metal CU. i would, however, check all connections in it for tightness.

 

[Dozer 73]

what do YOU think?

My thoughts are it would be ok , now before you all jump down my throat , I only really work on industrial etc so not used to dealing with domestic dwellings and local authorities part p , part f etc
So not 100% on this hence the thread
So I await the vultures and keyboard warriors to attack me and my imcompatance , LOL

 

[Octopus]

My thoughts are it would be ok , now before you all jump down my throat , I only really work on industrial etc so not used to dealing with domestic dwellings and local authorities part p , part f etc
So not 100% on this hence the thread
So I await the vultures and keyboard warriors to attack me and my imcompetence , LOL

Matey, take a tip, offer your answer and answer questions put to you, then when done give feedback and thanks....

AMD 3 came out nearly 3 years ago ........... I find it tricky to believe that ANYONE who claims to work in the industry doesn't know the answer to this.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Matey, take a tip, offer your answer and answer questions put to you, then when done give feedback and thanks....

AMD 3 came out nearly 3 years ago ........... I find it tricky to believe that ANYONE who claims to work in the industry doesn't know the answer to this.

that's him told off by head master Murdoch, is that 50 lashings for not keeping up with the regs .

 

[westward10]

As long as additional rcd protection, if required is provided there is no problem.

 

[lurch]

Matey, take a tip, offer your answer and answer questions put to you, then when done give feedback and thanks....

AMD 3 came out nearly 3 years ago ........... I find it tricky to believe that ANYONE who claims to work in the industry doesn't know the answer to this.

I meet sparks regulary that wouldn't know the answer. . . . .

 

[Dozer 73]

Matey, take a tip, offer your answer and answer questions put to you, then when done give feedback and thanks....

AMD 3 came out nearly 3 years ago ........... I find it tricky to believe that ANYONE who claims to work in the industry doesn't know the answer to this.[/QUOTE

Matey, take a tip, offer your answer and answer questions put to you, then when done give feedback and thanks....

AMD 3 came out nearly 3 years ago ........... I find it tricky to believe that ANYONE who claims to work in the industry doesn't know the answer to this.

expected this response, which I don’t mind ( big shoulders ) , yes I just wanted to confirm my thoughts
But cheers guys thanks for the reply’s
Do I consider my self told off for posting the thread

 

[Dozer 73]

I meet sparks regulary that wouldn't know the answer. . . . .

Oh the questions you get asked by other electricians is sometimes bewildering

 

[Dozer 73]

I must add to this thread , when having an extension on residential properties , fire and spread of fire is a major part of the building regs , smoke’s , fire doors , escape routes
So why not introduce ammendmant 3 into this if you are adding new circuits onto an existing DB
Good idea or not ????

 

[Dozer 73]

Matey, take a tip, offer your answer and answer questions put to you, then when done give feedback and thanks....

AMD 3 came out nearly 3 years ago ........... I find it tricky to believe that ANYONE who claims to work in the industry doesn't know the answer to this.

I won’t ask you my next question about wiring in wet string then regards latest regs

 

[Dozer 73]

no problem in connecting new work into a non-metal CU. i would, however, check all connections in it for tightness.

I like your your quote , and think it’s good practise , but where do you draw the line on that quote
Do you check every existing connection every time you add a circuit into a DB

 

[Jamie']

I like your your quote , and think it’s good practise , but where do you draw the line on that quote
Do you check every existing connection every time you add a circuit into a DB

Ideally yes, especially mains. At end of the day if something goes wrong in that DB it will be you getting the short straw if something happens.

 

[Dozer 73]

Ideally yes, especially mains

Evening Jamie if you read above quotes, you are going to get 50 lashes by that statement
LOL

 

[Jamie']

Evening Jamie if you read above quotes, you are going to get 50 lashes by that statement
LOL

Why?

 

[Dozer 73]

Why?

Read the threads, personally I think it would be good to add this into regs , regarding extensions and spread of fire , specially when it’s been deemed so important that a big amendment has been introduced about it
So all the latest regs apply with an extension , but to hell with amendment 3 and the spread of fire
As long as the electrician connecting the circuits up can quote the regs off by heart there will be no chance of a fire at the DB

 

[Jamie']

I'm on about tightness of connections?

 

[Octopus]

I must add to this thread , when having an extension on residential properties , fire and spread of fire is a major part of the building regs , smoke’s , fire doors , escape routes
So why not introduce ammendmant 3 into this if you are adding new circuits onto an existing DB
Good idea or not ????

There are enough confusing interpretations of what is and what isn't required as it is. Joe Public will spend thousands on a new kitchen but refuse a board upgrade which will cost a few hundred.

We are not the electrical police ............ sure make a suggestion, but don't go round claiming its required, because it sure isn't

 

[Dozer 73]

There are enough confusing interpretations of what is and what isn't required as it is. Joe Public will spend thousands on a new kitchen but refuse a board upgrade which will cost a few hundred.

We are not the electrical police ............ sure make a suggestion, but don't go round claiming its required, because it sure isn't

Has any of the above quotes ‘ claimed it’s a requirement
Some one quoted ideally yes that’s as near as any one has claimed its required

 

[Octopus]

Has any of the above quotes ‘ claimed it’s a requirement
Some one quoted ideally yes that’s as near as any one has claimed its required

I wasn't suggesting anyone on here would state it is required, because we all know it's not

 

[Dozer 73]

I wasn't suggesting anyone on here would state it is required, because we all know it's not[/QUOTE
Agreed it’s not a reg
Do you think it would be a good improvement if it was , or a complete waste of time

 

[Dozer 73]

Personally if it saved just a few lives , it’s a good idea
Yes I’ve twisted the thread a bit agreed
Nothing like an intellectual chat / debate.

 

[Octopus]

No. Daft idea.

As I said, a, polite suggestion normally works for me,

 

[Dozer 73]

No. Daft idea.

As I said, a, polite suggestion normally works for me,

If it’s a daft idea why the amendment , The amendment was introduced because that many house fires were traced back to DB’s
There is no requirement to check tightness of existing terminals in a DB you are adding additional circuits into
So what if ??????
Daft Idea , I think that could be the wrong phrase to amendment 3

 

[Dozer 73]

No. Daft idea.

As I said, a, polite suggestion normally works for me,

Consumer units - IET Electrical - http://electrical.------.org/wiring-matters/55/consumer-units/index.cfm
DAFT IDEA ??????????

 

[Dozer 73]

Consumer units - IET Electrical - http://electrical.------.org/wiring-matters/55/consumer-units/index.cfm
DAFT IDEA ??????????

I find it tricky to believe that ANYONE whoclaims to work in the industry
Thinks this is a daft idea
Just couldn’t resist it

 

[PEG]

I still reckon the money spent on AMD 3,could have been better invested,in quality screwdrivers and a short training film,sent to all concerned

You could reduce pollution,and increase road safety,by passing a law,that forbade anyone from driving,the one day every month,that matched the day of their birthday. Who's game?