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has anyone pre ordered the new books yet and weres the cheapest place to get them was tempted to order mine on amazon £130 for the reqs,on site guide, gn3 your thoughts chaps
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Good questionDo you do many EICR's mate?
Is this a loaded question? Yes!!
What does the RISQS initials stand for??
Sounds like someone (or Organization) has been well and truly hooked by all the hype the NICEIC spurts out!! lol!!
None of which mean anything to me. But if what UKESRail has stated is correct, then they seem to be relying on NICEIC membership to authenticate this ''RISQS'' card and maybe the others you mention here. I can't think of a worse move myself, far better to conduct your own assessment, if you're going to issue a card as a restrictive approval requirement!!
In order to obtain any of the cards I have mentioned, you first have to have an ECS/CSCS skill card.
As I've already stated, I am not, and never have been registered with the NICEIC.
Good question
As you are the MD of a company that does mainly railway work (from one of your earlier post) I find it strange you should do any EICR’s.
You should have minions to do the tedious work while you concentrate on keeping the rail system going.
Just because people have heard of it doesnt mean its a good brsnd though does it?we all know how powerful the NICEIC brand os outside of the electricians world. Like it or not.
UKESRail, you've been rumbled as a charlatan.
If you’re going to tell porkies, try to remember the storyline. You’ll need it to give creadence to anything you say in future.
Just because people have heard of it doesnt mean its a good brsnd though does it?
Alot of these home renovation programmes and the likes of Dominic Littlewood have alot to answer for because they say you should use a contractor registered with them.
If you want to know how bad they and the other scams are research how many they have removed from being registered with them due to bad working practises, then how many they prosecute for using their brand when not a member of them.
Fair enough, its just you seem to quote them a awful lot recently to back up your point.
Fair enough, its just you seem to quote them a awful lot recently to back up your point.
Just as a reference. I do not think they are all bad. It is particually the DI scheme and the fact that you can become a QS now without having your 2391, 2394/2395 that bothers me about the NICEIC.
If it bothers you that much then your shouldn't help fund them then should you. I don't and won't fund any of them. Anyhow have you got your 2391 ?
Hey guys give UKESRail a break, since he is registered with the NICEIC then he is required by them to comply with their "regs". We all know the NICEIC is nothing more than a money making scam these days. But UKESRail has a point, the NICEIC seems to have the monopoly, many companies and a good chunk of the general public are brain washed into believing that you are not a qualified electrician unless you are registered with the NIC.
An electrician friend of mine, who is a very good spark, highly skilled and very knowledgeable has been forced into registering with the NIC so he can gain a very good contract on a large well known company. They would not accept any of his qualifications or any of the other organisations he was registered with.!
The head honchos at the NIC are rubbing their hands as they cruise on the Med sipping on the champers, aboard their million dollar yachts!
What marketing department? I have never seen ad advert for them on civvie street, as for the idiots who i mentioned earlier on property development programmes them they advertise them more than anything else.
Hey guys give UKESRail a break, since he is registered with the NICEIC then he is required by them to comply with their "regs". We all know the NICEIC is nothing more than a money making scam these days. But UKESRail has a point, the NICEIC seems to have the monopoly, many companies and a good chunk of the general public are brain washed into believing that you are not a qualified electrician unless you are registered with the NIC.
An electrician friend of mine, who is a very good spark, highly skilled and very knowledgeable has been forced into registering with the NIC so he can gain a very good contract on a large well known company. They would not accept any of his qualifications or any of the other organisations he was registered with.!
The head honchos at the NIC are rubbing their hands as they cruise on the Med sipping on the champers, aboard their million dollar yachts!
It did used to bother me but I got over it. Me being bothered about it or not is not going to change anything. I am not funding them, my clients are because I pass on the cost. They want a NICEIC electrician then my rates will go up.
No I do not have my 2391 or the modern equivalent. But then I may not be the QS.....
Which begs the question of just how do they manage to wangle their way into these companies to make them the ''preferred accreditation organisation'' if they are not spending money on promotional advertising?? Nothing underhand going on surely!! lol!!
I thought you needed to have a QS to be full scope with the NICEIC ?
With out 2391 !?
With out 2391 !?
I personally believe the minimum of 2391 or equivalent should be attained by anyone who is on their own , and definitely if you own a company employing others .
I do agree with you on the last bit David , but I find it quite astounding that they do not require the 2391 or what ever the equivalent is now days as at least a bench mark to becoming a QS .
I know the scams have ripped the arse out of the domestic market , but did not know they had started on the commercial side as well now!
This will no doubt get a few peoples backs up , but I personally believe the minimum of 2391 or equivalent should be attained by anyone who is on their own , and definitely if you own a company employing others .
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