NIC approved contractor assessment

[GLENNSPARK]

Just had assessment:

passed.

 

[Engineer54]

2 years eng mate...

Only going by MDJ's post comments Glenn...

however they have dropped the time from 2 years to one year unless you are registered as a DI with them then it is 6 months,

Things have changed dramatically from the inception of the AC schemes, they bare little resemblance to what's being bandied about now. Random Inspections was once part and parcel that any AC company could be subjected too, ...bet they don't do that anymore either....

 

[MDJ]

I will apologise Glen if I am wrong, I was sure it was changed to a year m8

 

[ipf]

There are positives and negatives for both sides. As in my previous post, I can only speak from being involved with NIC for 25 years or so. It doesn't matter what people put forward in the pros and cons, the fact is, that the NIC is still the most recognised and respected of the organisations involved and, as such, becoming an AC/QS or whatever, still counts for a great deal.
Not as much as it used to do, that's my point.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Only going by MDJ's post comments Glenn...



Things have changed dramatically from the inception of the AC schemes, they bare little resemblance to what's being bandied about now. Random Inspections was once part and parcel that any AC company could be subjected too, ...bet they don't do that anymore either....

well...
last words out of his mouth were :...it`l be probably me next year who assesses you...so....

 

[GLENNSPARK]

There are positives and negatives for both sides. As in my previous post, I can only speak from being involved with NIC for 25 years or so. It doesn't matter what people put forward in the pros and cons, the fact is, that the NIC is still the most recognised and respected of the organisations involved and, as such, becoming an AC/QS or whatever, still counts for a great deal.
Not as much as it used to do, that's my point.

well....for a start i wont backtrack on previous comments i have slung about where the NIC is concerned.....

but lets face it....they seem to be the only ones who you hear from....

even if TCs voice can be grating at times at these trade shows....

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I will apologise Glen if I am wrong, I was sure it was changed to a year m8

well....
all i can say mike is he was keen to know how long i had been in the trade for....

so i takes my que from that...

 

[richy3333]

Fair enough MDJ, but i wasn't talking about signing off another company's work, far from it. I was talking about a company's designated QS signing off numerous company electricians work.
So now it can be down to trading for 6 months, that just about wraps it all up then ...lol!!

Perhaps all the photo's and tales we see about NIC AC's are fabricated, i really don't know, but it certainly opens eyes and makes you wonder what's going on if they aren't!!

Shucks, I thought that everything on the interweb and this forum was true?!

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Shucks, I thought that everything on the interweb and this forum was true?!

Only if Rebek-ke-kek-kek-ahhhh Brooks issued it.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

I bet you taught that inspector a think or two eh Glenn?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I bet you taught that inspector a think or two eh Glenn?

well...
funnily enough after the first install we went to he seemed to just want to look at the other stuff....what i mean is he didn`t seem to want to see me do any testing on the other 4 venues....as he said he was happy i could test and was just more interested in the actual installation methods etc...

 

[GLENNSPARK]

I bet you taught that inspector a think or two eh Glenn?

we were talking about the content of the cylabus at colleges.....

the lack of lecturing on exported/extended PME....

and the way one of the lecturers told the class i was in that an RCD was a way to get round dodgy Zs....

hmm......

 

[telectrix]

now that you're approved, i hope you are still talking to me. LOL. :21:

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Tel

{ * tumbleweeds* }

 

[GLENNSPARK]

now that you're approved, i hope you are still talking to me. LOL. :21:

well...the thought of getting `all superior` crossed my mind Tel....lol....

 

[Engineer54]

well...
last words out of his mouth were :...it`l be probably me next year who assesses you...so....

Actually meant random inspections during the course of the year!! lol!!


I think it's pretty clear that i don't have much time for any of these money making parasites that provide little to nothing in the way of actual services. It's more of a buying in to a ''Must Have'' persona that these companies have generated in local councils and other influential bodies along with insurance companies etc!!


Why a fully indemnified and fully qualified electrical contracting company should actually need/require the likes of NICEIC or other similar outfits, to enable them to compete or submit quotes/prices for contract work etc, seems actually very wrong to me!!

 

[Knobhead]

As per usual, instead of congratulating Glenn the topic has degenerated in to a mud slinging match.

Again congratulations Glenn, I know how much you put in to the assessment.

 

[Engineer54]

As per usual, instead of congratulating Glenn the topic has degenerated in to a mud slinging match.

Again congratulations Glenn, I know how much you put in to the assessment.

Can't see where any mud slinging has gone on in the thread, and there's been plenty of congratulations afforded to Glenn.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Actually meant random inspections during the course of the year!! lol!!


I think it's pretty clear that i don't have much time for any of these money making parasites that provide little to nothing in the way of actual services. It's more of a buying in to a ''Must Have'' persona that these companies have generated in local councils and other influential bodies along with insurance companies etc!!


Why a fully indemnified and fully qualified electrical contracting company should actually need/require the likes of NICEIC or other similar outfits, to enable them to compete or submit quotes/prices for contract work etc, seems actually very wrong to me!!

well...the manager in the markets was saying stuff like `approved contractor is the only insurance we have` and `it means we can be sure it wont be cowboys carrying out the works....as we have had it in the past`...

stuff like that...

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As per usual, instead of congratulating Glenn the topic has degenerated in to a mud slinging match.

Again congratulations Glenn, I know how much you put in to the assessment.

your in a good mood Tony...

you must have got the stuff i emailed you then....

 

[Knobhead]

your in a good mood Tony...

you must have got the stuff i emailed you then....

thanks for them Glenn, you could have loaded them on my data stick.

 

[Engineer54]

well...the manager in the markets was saying stuff like `approved contractor is the only insurance we have` and `it means we can be sure it wont be cowboys carrying out the works....as we have had it in the past`...

stuff like that...

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Just goes to show the nonsense these councils and the like have been sold by these bodies!!
Every trading electrical contracting company in the UK/Europe requires the appropriate insurances to be in place. All these end users need do, is request copies of said indemnities as proof of compliance!!

I wonder if this markets manager has ever seen/received a penny from the likes of NICEIC in the way of compensation, I doubt it?? 9 times out of 10, it will be the electrical contractors insurance that will be doing any paying out!!