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GLENNSPARK
Just had assessment:
passed.
passed.
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nah don't agree
How do you know that Fella? you have been out of the country for years haven't you? look there's no doubt they have made it easier to become approved than years ago, but insurance and being a spark with a cheque book won't get you straight into it, anyhow that's my view from experience being a QS with them for close to 20 years now I suppose.Unfortunately it's the truth, whether you agree or disagree!!
How do you know that Fella? you have been out of the country for years haven't you? look there's no doubt they have made it easier to become approved than years ago, but insurance and being a spark with a cheque book won't get you straight into it, anyhow that's my view from experience being a QS with them for close to 20 years now I suppose.
I would not be allowed to sign off another companies works fella, if I did that I would be removed from the roll, some of what you say may indeed have merit, but not everything you say is correct IMO, it is exactly the same now regarding inspections and adhering to the rules of the roll as it was 20 years ago, however they have dropped the time from 2 years to one year unless you are registered as a DI with them then it is 6 months, obviously they have to compete with other schemes but they still have much higher standards than others and my engineer who visits me every year is no soft touch regarding quality of works and ensuring all is done right, but as always I respect your views and know we will get nowhere continuing this debate, you have your views I have 20 years experience dealing with them, we won't ever agree for sure.
2 years eng mate...Fair enough MDJ, but i wasn't talking about signing off another company's work, far from it. I was talking about a company's designated QS signing off numerous company electricians work.
So now it can be down to trading for 6 months, that just about wraps it all up then ...lol!!
Perhaps all the photo's and tales we see about NIC AC's are fabricated, i really don't know, but it certainly opens eyes and makes you wonder what's going on if they aren't!!
I'm surprised they actually carried out an assessment. The usual trick is tell you they notified you of an appt by post which never got entered onto their system...they then pretend to turn up without you being aware of any such date and then proceed with a surcharge of around £200 for the missed appt.
well...i`m not being funny guys...but i wont be `got` like that...That happened to us twice last year!!...
Just turned up and then tried to Bill us...
Once received a letter on the same day that the appointment was meant to be, picked the post up and not long after he arrived...unbelievable...
....no one tries pulling my pants down like that...
2 years eng mate...
however they have dropped the time from 2 years to one year unless you are registered as a DI with them then it is 6 months,
Only going by MDJ's post comments Glenn...
Things have changed dramatically from the inception of the AC schemes, they bare little resemblance to what's being bandied about now. Random Inspections was once part and parcel that any AC company could be subjected too, ...bet they don't do that anymore either....
well....for a start i wont backtrack on previous comments i have slung about where the NIC is concerned.....There are positives and negatives for both sides. As in my previous post, I can only speak from being involved with NIC for 25 years or so. It doesn't matter what people put forward in the pros and cons, the fact is, that the NIC is still the most recognised and respected of the organisations involved and, as such, becoming an AC/QS or whatever, still counts for a great deal.
Not as much as it used to do, that's my point.
well....I will apologise Glen if I am wrong, I was sure it was changed to a year m8
Shucks, I thought that everything on the interweb and this forum was true?!Fair enough MDJ, but i wasn't talking about signing off another company's work, far from it. I was talking about a company's designated QS signing off numerous company electricians work.
So now it can be down to trading for 6 months, that just about wraps it all up then ...lol!!
Perhaps all the photo's and tales we see about NIC AC's are fabricated, i really don't know, but it certainly opens eyes and makes you wonder what's going on if they aren't!!
Shucks, I thought that everything on the interweb and this forum was true?!![]()
well...I bet you taught that inspector a think or two eh Glenn?
we were talking about the content of the cylabus at colleges.....I bet you taught that inspector a think or two eh Glenn?
well...the thought of getting `all superior` crossed my mind Tel....lol....now that you're approved, i hope you are still talking to me. LOL. :21:
well...
last words out of his mouth were :...it`l be probably me next year who assesses you...so....
As per usual, instead of congratulating Glenn the topic has degenerated in to a mud slinging match.
Again congratulations Glenn, I know how much you put in to the assessment.
well...the manager in the markets was saying stuff like `approved contractor is the only insurance we have` and `it means we can be sure it wont be cowboys carrying out the works....as we have had it in the past`...Actually meant random inspections during the course of the year!! lol!!
I think it's pretty clear that i don't have much time for any of these money making parasites that provide little to nothing in the way of actual services. It's more of a buying in to a ''Must Have'' persona that these companies have generated in local councils and other influential bodies along with insurance companies etc!!
Why a fully indemnified and fully qualified electrical contracting company should actually need/require the likes of NICEIC or other similar outfits, to enable them to compete or submit quotes/prices for contract work etc, seems actually very wrong to me!!
your in a good mood Tony...As per usual, instead of congratulating Glenn the topic has degenerated in to a mud slinging match.
Again congratulations Glenn, I know how much you put in to the assessment.
your in a good mood Tony...
you must have got the stuff i emailed you then....
well...the manager in the markets was saying stuff like `approved contractor is the only insurance we have` and `it means we can be sure it wont be cowboys carrying out the works....as we have had it in the past`...
stuff like that...
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Just goes to show the nonsense these councils and the like have been sold by these bodies!!
Every trading electrical contracting company in the UK/Europe requires the appropriate insurances to be in place. All these end users need do, is request copies of said indemnities as proof of compliance!!
I wonder if this markets manager has ever seen/received a penny from the likes of NICEIC in the way of compensation, I doubt it?? 9 times out of 10, it will be the electrical contractors insurance that will be doing any paying out!!
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