NVQ level 3????

[Neill777]

Sorry if this question has been posted before but I'm new
Ive just been informed that I need to take the NVQ level 3 to be classed as an electrician by the JIB. I thought that my qualifications (c&g 1&2 years 1993-1996, 2391 and the 17th) covered this. I'm am being told that despite 19 years experience and an NICEIC approved contractor I need this further expensive qualification to clarify my poison as an electrician. Is this true??

 

[markc123]

Unfortunatley.

Have you never had a JIB card before...if you've had one in the past then it's fine, but if you apply for one now - and you've never had one. Then you need an NVQ level 3 regardless of your experience. It surely has to change soon, it's abit harsh.

Someone i know going through the same ballache at the moment. Maybe if you keep pressuring them then they'll give in lol.

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

This is true and more bad news for you is that the last enrolment date for NVQ lev 3 was last December!, I wouldn't worry to much unless your looking for site/agency work, if your going self employed you don't need it
I just managed to enroll in time, but I havnt even thought about starting it yet as I've been to busy to do it

 

[Jay Sparks]

Sorry if this question has been posted before but I'm new
Ive just been informed that I need to take the NVQ level 3 to be classed as an electrician by the JIB. I thought that my qualifications (c&g 1&2 years 1993-1996, 2391 and the 17th) covered this. I'm am being told that despite 19 years experience and an NICEIC approved contractor I need this further expensive qualification to clarify my poison as an electrician. Is this true??

This true, if you wish to have a gold card that grade you as "electrician". I had the same quals as you except i had 2330 instead of 236 1 & 2 and I had to do the nvq 3 toget my gold card.

 

[Neill777]

But there are courses still available on line and my NIC rep said I could still do it,
could I not get grandad right with regards to experience?

 

[Neill777]

And no, I've never had a JIB card,it's only now that I'm looking to go on big sites as its a bit slow

 

[Jay Sparks]

But there are courses still available on line and my NIC rep said I could still do it,
could I not get grandad right with regards to experience?

You may have to talk to someone at JIB and explain your circumstances. You can do the NVQ 3 online, its hard work though.

 

[Neill777]

It's all hard work nowadays lol

 

[badwolf]

You will prob only need to do some of the elements, as all the technical bits will have been covered in your previous quals, I'm having to do it but only 5 units, check out nvq 2356.com, it's a ball ache doing it, but as I've found there is no way round it at the moment!

 

[KAS1]

Hmmmmmm does this mean it's harder to get JIB grades than be registered with a scam?

 

[Jay Sparks]

Hmmmmmm does this mean it's harder to get JIB grades than be registered with a scam?

Now come on KAS, everyone knows you can register with a scam, simply by giving them some money....lol
Joining JIB however is a pain in the ---..lol

 

[growler]

if you work for a JIB company im sure that they can approve you without doing the NVQ !

 

[KAS1]

I've never had a problem with my grading with the JIB, the only people who seem to get problems are those not working for a JIB company.

 

[badwolf]

The jib are owned by the Eca and unite, the Eca owns elecsa and the esc owns niceic, and now they have all merged, so in guessing an nic or elecsa spark might have an advantage, possibly, just a sceptical guess!

 

[Guest55]

for qualifications gained between 1994 & 1999 , a nvq l3 is not needed.
2360 parts 1 + 2 + am2 + employer references will bag you the gold card.

 

[VoltzElectrical]

for qualifications gained between 1994 & 1999 , a nvq l3 is not needed.
2360 parts 1 + 2 + am2 + employer references will bag you the gold card.

Not questioning you Biff, just interested to know where you got this info from?

 

[KAS1]

That's spot on

for qualifications gained between 1994 & 1999 , a nvq l3 is not needed.
2360 parts 1 + 2 + am2 + employer references will bag you the gold card.

 

[Guest55]

hey presto !


ECS Card

4th paragraph down.

why talk tittle tattle when the facts are so easily available ;-)

 

[rmc86uk]

I've never had a problem with my grading with the JIB, the only people who seem to get problems are those not working for a JIB company.

This is true as lot come on here moaning how they can't get the gold card! The JIB is the only thing that is setting the standards within the industry!

 

[rattlehead85]

The jib gold card the easy way. Go to Bulgaria or Poland. Pay a backhander to a dodgy lawyer or solicitor to type and stamp you a document claiming you hold years of technical experience in the field. Bring it back to good ol' blighty and take it to Narec. Get it translated no questions asked. Send your shiny new english approved document to the JIB and 6 weeks later hey presto you have your all singin' all dancin' gold card just like 40000 other so called electricians hailing from eastern europe have done.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

The jib gold card the easy way. Go to Bulgaria or Poland. Pay a backhander to a dodgy lawyer or solicitor to type and stamp you a document claiming you hold years of technical experience in the field. Bring it back to good ol' blighty and take it to Narec. Get it translated no questions asked. Send your shiny new english approved document to the JIB and 6 weeks later hey presto you have your all singin' all dancin' gold card just like 40000 other so called electricians hailing from eastern europe have done.

then get over here and start touting for business....
like the dummy who spent 2 hours trying to figure out why a boiler wouldn`t work as there was a voltage at the FCU....
oh, he was from poland by the way....

 

[rmc86uk]

The jib gold card the easy way. Go to Bulgaria or Poland. Pay a backhander to a dodgy lawyer or solicitor to type and stamp you a document claiming you hold years of technical experience in the field. Bring it back to good ol' blighty and take it to Narec. Get it translated no questions asked. Send your shiny new english approved document to the JIB and 6 weeks later hey presto you have your all singin' all dancin' gold card just like 40000 other so called electricians hailing from eastern europe have done.

Surely this can't be true? Why do we bother working and training hard to get where we do! I understand that in their home land they may be qualified Electricians but over here we have different regs and work to better standards! They should have to take a trade test.

 

[markc123]

Disgusting isn't it.

A trade test wouldn't even be good enough for me though to be fair, if they want to be electricians they should abide by what every other electrician in this country does and posess the correct and current qualifications - i.e. go back to college here for 4+years.

If they want to be electricians here, they re-train to our standards properly or stay back in there own country. Simple as that for me - why the big boys in suits can't think logically is beyond me - oh wait, they're interested in money not the trade.

 

[rattlehead85]

Surely this can't be true? Why do we bother working and training hard to get where we do! I understand that in their home land they may be qualified Electricians but over here we have different regs and work to better standards! They should have to take a trade test.

Like it or not that is the scam they use!! i've seen the proof of it and been told by people who have done it how easy it is. And to think us british people who give them positions actually cannot obtain this card without hard graft and bone fide references!!

 

[LlandrilloSpark]

Manchester (MAN) to Warsaw (WAW)
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[rmc86uk]

Disgusting isn't it.

A trade test wouldn't even be good enough for me though to be fair, if they want to be electricians they should abide by what every other electrician in this country does and posess the correct and current qualifications - i.e. go back to college here for 4+years.

If they want to be electricians here, they re-train to our standards properly or stay back in there own country. Simple as that for me - why the big boys in suits can't think logically is beyond me - oh wait, they're interested in money not the trade.

Money, money money!

 

[markc123]

Last experience i had with a polish spark was he wired a canadian style cabin lodge as it was being built....put the CU directly underneath the sink and the plumbing pipe for the sink directly in front of it so you couldn't actually get the CU lid off or even up to reset the breakers.....nice!!

Speaking of this, and to go off on a tangent...there isn't anywhere in the regs that stipulates a CU not being allowed under a sink is they? It's just terrible practice especially when done from new...

 

[rattlehead85]

When i showed my gold card to a bloke whom was on site with me and told him the qualis i had to take to obtain it his response to my shock horror was..." this card is a joke...i pay not even a quarter of what you have payed and i get this in 4-5 weeks in romania i come here Narec give me document for JIB and this is it. He pulls out a technicians card yet he cannot wire up a set of son lamps to work through a contactor and photocell arrangement!!

 

[markc123]

Now that's just annoyed me lol