Plumbers replacing electric showers

[KevinS]

Hi,
ive been tasked with writing a 'standard operation sheet' for plumbers to replace electric showers safely.

at the moment they are replacing showers with no test gear, then the electrician is following behind doing a Zs

my concern is; they turn it off at the dp switch and remove the shower, I am not happy that it is dead when they turn if off as they have no method of checking. There may be a fault on the dp switch and they would not know

is this an acceptable procedure
remove cover of shower.
turn shower on by double pole switch,
VOLTSTICK (yes I know) will indicate,
if volt stick does NOT indicate, stop and wait for advice off an electrician
turn off by dp switch, VOLTSTICK will stop indicating,
if VOLTSTICK does not stop indicating, stop and wait for electrician
switch breaker off at board and proceed

i know what you are going to say, but the company won't pay for test gear for 20+ plumbers, hence the VOLTSTICK idea.

is this classed as safe enough, it's safer than what's happening now,
cheers

 

[Knobhead]

o oh.....flush the toilet and the light comes on.....

I'm not letting a plumber anywhere near my new TechnoToilet!

 

[Elmer BeFuddled]

I'm not letting a plumber anywhere near my new TechnoToilet!

Where's the "(pish) miss mat??"

 

[Geordie Spark]

That will be because you don't understand the different compression (or sealing) properties between a copper olive and a brass olive. Is the brass olive one belt with the apprentices head against the end of the spanner to seal and the copper olive two belts with the apprentices head against the end of the spanner to seal?

Or the other way round?

See the issue?? Its highly technical and you need to be able to read grunt to be able to understand the plumbers regs. (and find a copy!!).

(Just realised I'm quoting Geordie who, may, have a subliminal understanding of grunt!! :smilielol5::icon10

And who are you calling a grunt????

 

[ipf]

I'm not letting a plumber anywhere near my new TechnoToilet!

I'll bet that lawn's an attraction for the dog

 

[telectrix]

Yorkie going pee-pee in the potty - YouTube

 

[richy3333]

For **** sake, the loonies have taken over that asylum!

 

[sparkless]

to OP
its a blame culture, don't put yourself in the firing line.

sounds like your company is setting up for a scapegoat

 

[telectrix]

just reading the title, when are we going to have electric showers replacing plumbers?

 

[moose]

To Serious a note here, This is under Bad Practice for whoever is involved.

The Electrician Should Isolate the Shower From the DB or CU meaning remove cable from the Fuse, before the plumber gets his nutty hands on it, its all stated in the Regs, Isolate, a volt pen is a no no a Proper Volt tester (multimeter etc) should always be used, bugger me what kind of forum is this..... next Lick it to test that works..

 

[Des 56]

[h=2]Plumbers replacing electric showers[/h]
Are they cheaper to run ?

 

[lodmoorhill]

I would remind your employer that company directors have responsibilities as well. If they think they are pulling a flanker by pushing the responsibility onto you, they are sadly mistaken.

 

[gnuuser]

To Serious a note here, This is under Bad Practice for whoever is involved.

The Electrician Should Isolate the Shower From the DB or CU meaning remove cable from the Fuse, before the plumber gets his nutty hands on it, its all stated in the Regs, Isolate, a volt pen is a no no a Proper Volt tester (multimeter etc) should always be used, bugger me what kind of forum is this..... next Lick it to test that works..

correct having an un qualified person work on the equipment with out proper equipment is plainly stupid
our guys at work all have these kits
Breaker Lockout Sampler Pouch With Brady Safety Padlocks & Tags - 99296 - BRADY

there is also larger kits with the large plug isolators for 3 phase plugs like the nema 14-60p (shown here)
NEMA Plug & Receptacle Configurations Reference Chart (Straight Blade)

to the op do not sign off on this (those weasels are just trying to avoid responsibility)