RCBO installtion in old MCU following EICR Report

[davesparks]

Apologises, I am a landlord. I read somewhere that for landlords SPDs are mandatory on MCUs or on electric meters?

The wiring regulations are exactly the same for everyone.

 

[mainline]

The wiring regulations are exactly the same for everyone.

There are differences for landlords, etc so not the same for everyone.

 

[littlespark]

The wiring regs are the same, but building and fire regs may be different

 

[mainline]

The wiring regs are the same, but building and fire regs may be different

bs7671 standards are different for higher risk properties, therefore the regs are different.

 

[littlespark]

I’ve started another thread about differences in regs for rental properties here

 

[westward10]

As above can we move it to here, I'm not moving them all.

Differences in regs for rental property?

Further to discussion on another thread about whether BS7671 regs are different for rented properties. I say no. Building regs and fire regs are different…. But not wiring regs. There are differences in the wiring regs between domestic properties and non- domestic though.

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[Deanp35]

Just had it confirmed by Crabtree, yes replacement covers are available for flush fitted consumer units.

Thanks. Do you have the link or product code?

 

[westward10]

Thanks. Do you have the link or product code?

No contact them with a picture or part number if you have it.

 

[Deanp35]

Attached images showing side by side a newer compact RCBO against the old MCBs in my current MCU. The new RCBOs are bigger in size dimensionally although some sides are same. The bigger size most likely would mean the front cover lid won't shut on existing MCU as there isn't much space in front. May have to find a front replacement lid from somewhere. Only problem is finding one which is 220mm in height which is proving to be challenging.

 

[westward10]

They stick out no more than the already fitted RCD.

 

[Deanp35]

Just had it confirmed by Crabtree, yes replacement covers are available for flush fitted consumer units.

Crabtree do not sell any lids or replacement parts for consumer units from mid 90s or early 2000's. This was confirmed by Karen from Crabtree. They do not do any RCBOs either. I did mention that some have been able to do this but the advise given back is that its likely that those who have put compact RCBOs in very old units, are likely to have done other modications which Crabtree can not comment on.

 

[Deanp35]

Update: RCBOs installed within current MCU. I managed to find another electrician who was able to do this. Attached picture - final results. Wasn't happy he changed upstairs and downstairs socket breakers into one 'General Sockets' but he only had 6 RCBOs with him and he said sockets don't need to be on seperate breakers. He only sent invoice for the work done so presumably I don't need another EICR as he has done the work to clear the 4 x C2's from my first EICR that was done few months back?

 

[MDJ]

' but he only had 6 RCBOs with him and he said sockets don't need to be on seperate breakers. View attachment 116618

I await replies here with bated breath

 

[suffolkspark]

Sockets will probably be ok on one, a little inconvenient in the event of a fault though, I'd probably like a 7th rcbo in. Wonder if hes linked the ends to make it 1 long ring, or put all 4 legs in the rcbo.

You dont need another eicr, but should have recieved an EIC with test readings for the new devices and updated schedule? with detail in the scope of works whats been done so whoever needs to can reference what's been sorted against the eicr.