Self employment & Pimlico Plumbers court case ...

[Deleted member 26818]

He worked there for nearly six years, was VAT registered and used his self employed status to right off a room at his house. I believe both parties new exactly what they were up to.

Not sure whether you have missed the point or not?
However you have chosen two points as proof he was benefiting from being Self Employed which prove nothing at all.
His six figure earnings were such that he would have breached the threshold for compulsory VAT registration.
Yes he used his Self Employed status to claim for a room in his house. He was unable to use his PAYE status to claim, as he was Self Employed.
Of course he may not have legitimately been able to use his PAYE status to claim for the room as he would not have been Self Employed or VAT registered and may have not needed to use a room for his accounting.
You may have had a valid point if you had cited that he employed his wife as a secretary, except that again being PAYE he may not have needed to do any accounting from home and would not have needed a secretary.

 

[Wilko]

Sorry I haven't read all the details, but as a private contractor did he not carry his own health insurance?

 

[Risteard]

The whole point is that he wasn't an independent contractor - he was an employee of Pimlico.

 

[Octopus]

Wasn't this chap always breaking the rules of IR 35?

 

[Wilko]

The whole point is that he wasn't an independent contractor - he was an employee of Pimlico.

Understood, that's the outcome of the court case now. But in the first week of work for the company say? Does the ruling mean that he was always an employee or that he became one at some point during the 6 years? Just interesting

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Understood, that's the outcome of the court case now. But in the first week of work for the company say? Does the ruling mean that he was always an employee or that he became one at some point during the 6 years? Just interesting

I would imagine he would have been deemed as employed from day one.

 

[Wilko]

That will set the cat amongst the small flying creatures won't it ...

 

[telectrix]

That will set the cat amongst the small flying creatures won't it ...

what have bats got to do with anything?

 

[HandySparks]

what have bats got to do with anything?

My thoughts exactly. Pigeons, on the other hand are larger flying creatures, with a propensity for excessive crapping.