Tell us about your faults!

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kung

Hi ALL
Just thought id put this one up for all those faults we find.
heres one to kick it off !
Domestic RCD tripped and wouldnt reset cause was a blown low energy light bulb.:D
There you go now for yours !
 
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Lucas said:
Each to their own but I see that as incredibly bad practice.
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Ok..... I'm glad this post had gotten some attention. What I always do, which I see as the failsafe option. Is to wire the ring cpcs into the socket together, then a single out to the box. It's good to know that these posts are getting read and are being paid attention to.
 
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Here are some DIY faults which I found recently when I fitted a new kitchen. SAM_4019.JPGSAM_4174.JPGSAM_4185.JPG
1)Yes one of the water pipe was leaking, onto the spur from a spur from yet another spur.
2)JB behind the oven with 240v going in with T+E 1.0mm, 240v going out via flex, to each under unit light with built in Transformer.
3)Spur to a FCU using 2.5mm T+E from a 40 amp cooker circuit wired in 6mm T+E
The kitchen has been totally ripped out and renewed.
 
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amlu said:
it still works, not a fault. just something missing :(
still no reply from the client, possibly will be left like that for unspecified amount of timeView attachment 14228
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What's frightening about situations like this, is that they probably paid someone in good faith to do this and because it works, they assume it's ok. Saying yes yes it's all safe now it has an rcd like it should have.
 
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Lucas said:
Each to their own but I see that as incredibly bad practice.
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if one of the Cpc's is long enough I tend to use one to the box terminal, doubled over not cut and continue it to the socket and join it with the other Cpc so I have two at the socket. If not both to the socket with a link to the box. If that makes any sense.......
 
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DNS said:
Ok..... I'm glad this post had gotten some attention. What I always do, which I see as the failsafe option. Is to wire the ring cpcs into the socket together, then a single out to the box. It's good to know that these posts are getting read and are being paid attention to.
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which is of course the correct method which used to be taught at all colleges!
 
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For 4 years i worked as a fault finder purely and found the obscure the strange the weird and the idiotic and some of the most amazing faults that you couldnt dream of in fact i could write a book on my jobbing diary as they would take up a lot in one hit ill add one or to every now and again but today the worst

The most dangerous was a test on the lighting in a office to assertain its condition it was newish building metal clad external on a industrial estate in ashford. i visually failed the lights straight away as i could see exposed wires where the heat had burnt away the sheath but then i did a formal test. so i went to the mains room and as the building was unoccupied and i had licence to do so i switched of the power. Then i took off the cover of the 3tpn consumer unit and began my test.
Now as you are all aware that you should prove the supply is off ie borrowed supplies i used my test lamps and found the power still on. but this was the first call of the mains into the building there was no other switches or remote ccu's as i wnet to search my volt stick sounded as i walked through a door way i stopped looked it was a metal frame so i went around the building with my test lamps and where i could find a cpc and any metal near each other i tested and found the grid metal walls live the stair well railings live the ceiling grid live the pipe work live and best of all all the door frames and to the metal clad sheeting all live 240 volts so i opened the cutout and removed the fuses and the building ceased to be live..
At the fuseboard i checked the switch 4 pole but then straight away i saw that a double pole block used to take a seperate feed to the fire alarm panel off L1 but the neutral was on the load side terminal bar and seeing that the supply was tn-c-s the fire alarm had been installed in such away that under disconnection the earth had become the neutral and making for a utter death trap.
was a light in a hall way that was blinking on and off under inspection found that it was a plc lamp and there was no power going to the light unless it was switched on and low and behold the lamp glowed for a sec and was off again . again tested the switching found no surge of power activating the lamp ???
 
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ps the last paragraph is a question of a afault i found on why a light kept blinking if you think you have the answer let me know and ill will eventually enlighten you lol
 
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Am fitting kitchen and came across the following, uploadfromtaptalk1346273226534.jpg
For those who think they have had one too many it's Hungarian, obviously !!!
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Nice to see someone thinking of our precious copper resources, joining two lives to one has saved a whole inch of 2.5 !!
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And why waste earth sheath???
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Even after safe isolation its nice to know you can still achieve the frazzled perm look from exposed conductor, where our Hungarian comrade has slipped with the craft knife and exposed about an inch of cable, this is the feed from 100 ampain fuse
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Wow, this copper saving lark is catching on, into the socket in 2.5 out to next socket in 1.5
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Just as you think it can't get any worse..... 6 mm cooker circuit on 32 amp breaker , with.....yes 1.5 mm spur to double socket feeding boiler,
I could go on all evening with the probs on this job but even need to sleep. No main earth bonding, all earth bonding clamps below boiler on pipework is finger tight cable actually pulls out with no effort, best of all no attempt to remove ain't to get any sort of contact, allegedly checked by gas safe installer and deemed ' safe' . Treble socket in hallway backing onto kitchen has spur to five separate double sockets. Garage twenty five metres from house, has 2.5 t+e single length routed below ground in black flexible conduit feedin two sockets and various lights , will get pics tomoro ....... When I've decided where to start , oh and you will love the outside sockets
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That should keep you off the streets for a while...

The CU labelling has made me smile... I'm guessing there's no paperwork for this abortion?
 
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There is now.....a post it note with translations that I got the customer home from work to do !!! I will cert my work , but have already told him it all needs to be looked at. He enen has 13amp switched sockets in bathroom and wc above sinks , apparently for the wife to use hairdryer ..... They obviously work as she has lovely hair :-)

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Checking the electrics at a neighbours house, I came across this in the airing cupboard. It is a spur taken from the emersion heater circuit, for the themostatic shower with a 13 amp fuse not a 5 amp. Apparently the guy wiring it was English,just couldn't read or rite..lol Non of this was protected by an RCD.SAM_3997.JPG
 
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hermetic said:
Yes, it is asbestos, but I was more concerned with the fact that the incoming three phase supply had been connected directly to the fuses, instead of actually going through the switch first!!
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Not saying you're wrong, but are you sure? It's hard to tell from the photo (without knowing the model of switch in question) which set of switch contacts the cable entering the bottom is connected to.
 
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btw the fuse carriers have aspestos ribbon lining them, dont breath it
replace the fuses, that way you will be ok, then use a nail bar to remove the isolator from the wall
 
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HandySparks said:
Not saying you're wrong, but are you sure? It's hard to tell from the photo (without knowing the model of switch in question) which set of switch contacts the cable entering the bottom is connected to.
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Yes, I am sure, there is only one set of connections at the bottom, and one at the top, the incoming supply goes to the bottom, thus switching off isolates the fuses from the supply, so when the cover is removed, which can only be done with the switch in the off position, the live terminals are behind the paxolin (brown stuff) flash guard, and it is safe to remove the fuses. In this configuration the top fuse terminals are exposed and live all the time. If you click on the picture it will go full screen. I am quite confident this was not wired by a sparky!
 
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hi ,my workmate died last year after a long terrible illness, "aspestosis"
he was 58
ive inhaled aspestos dust in the past ,crawling over old pipe lagging in hotel roof voids
 
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ayjay said:
hi ,my workmate died last year after a long terrible illness, "aspestosis"
he was 58
ive inhaled aspestos dust in the past ,crawling over old pipe lagging in hotel roof voids
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Bummer about your friend! If You have inhaled this dust whilst working why haven't you worn the appropriate safety wear the woes COSHH springs to mind
 
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i don,t know what coshh means,
this was how it used to be in the late 60,s early70,s, when there was no safety gear

as an apprenice, i use to take big bundles of used/worn out fluorecent tubes and smash them with a hammer -into a dustbin, clouds of white powder everywhere, no mask--we didn,t have a clue
 
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ayjay said:
i don,t know what coshh means,
this was how it used to be in the late 60,s early70,s, when there was no safety gear

as an apprenice, i use to take big bundles of used/worn out fluorecent tubes and smash them with a hammer -into a dustbin, clouds of white powder everywhere, no mask--we didn,t have a clue
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I'm also from this era:frown:

We were a local village family business. No safety gear! We would be chasing-out concrete blocks (by hand) for days on end and re-wiring pre-fab buildings with asbestos sheets to walls and ceilings.
I can still remember drilling holes through the 'hard' grey sheets, and even 'pilot drilling' to fix things like light fittings, cord-pulls (over-head) & sockets.
'Luckily' I only suffer with a bad back, bad neck, bad knees & arthritic hands :teeth_smile:
 
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we didn,t even have electric drills when i started my apprenticship ohmyword!just a rawlplug jumper for fixings to cast-concrete
and a lenghth of 4x4 wood with a hole drilled in the end to bend conduit
joists were drilled using a hand brace
if i did something wrong i got a smack around the back of the head too
eeee-! happy days
 
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