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alan
EWR HSR 25 Rule 16 which is a legal document.
Competence = Skill + Knowledge + Experience
Competence = Skill + Knowledge + Experience
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At the end of the day, to be a competent person you need to be assessed. Either by a self-certification scheme or by a registered organisation. Only then will you be deemed in you're competancy to inspect and test electrical installations.
"are you a member of any electrical scheme... no ok then, where are the certs, oh they're nice green ones & you've filled them out, are you competent to do so?, right ok you have 2330 / NVQ3 work full time as a spark & you have 2381 & 2391, ok so it seems you are competent to undertake & test this kind work"
Qualifications alone do not make a legally accepted competent person thats why we pay megabucks to have this title bestowed upon us.
Yes i agree. you do not have to be a member to be competent to undertake any electrical work as long as you're certs are signed by one. Hence part p which is statutory .
Here Here spent 6 years not 6 week getting my approved grade via my qualifications if this was not so serious it would be a joke the way Schemies are saturating the trade
No its not the case!!!!
if by 'work' you mean installation work, then if its notifiable, you still have to pre-notify building control i.a.w Part P. although you CAN still test and inspect it yourself and submit the BS7671 certifcates to building control as evidence that the work complied with BS7671 - if the council makes a statement such as "it must be tested by a competent persons scheme member" then personally I would be reperting tem to trading standards as they have no legal authority to require this
If by 'work' you mean just testing and inspecting, then Part P doesnt apply anyway, and aisde from Part P, as i have said the only requirement is that you are competent (which you clearly must be if you are testing for your employer)
too much crredence has been put in the past on C&G 2391 and NICEIC, it shouild be remebered that they are both charities and are also trading partners so they have engineered it so that many people think you HAVE to hold 2391 and be an NIC memeber!
hope this helps
Dear Mr Tony
I believe this statement is not very accurate, City & Guilds has noting to do with NICEIC, and they are completely two different entities.
Best regards
R&M
Well he got the charity thing right what he omitted that they had no shareholders to please so all profits from their sales has to be spent funny enough on bonuses and extra pension payments .In my view this is driving our trade into the gutter so next time you get assessed ask them if they will give you details
I see the March edition of Professional Electrician the Schemies are welcoming the recent changes to Part P mmmmmm
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