If you are going to do this design, you will need to add your time to the price of the installation, I reckon the Architect is pulling a fast one, Architects do the designing don't they?
As I would but time is money for the self employed, tell him you will be charging for your time.
I've never done it using PDFs, but I have used other tools to produce a digital plan.
Within the latest version of Acrobat Reader, there are facilities to comment on a document. Open the document, and open the commenting toolbar. You may have to go to 'More tools' (on my setup this is on the right hand side, same place as I go to use the certificates section I use to sign my minor works certs to prevent them from being changed).
The comments tool bar looks like this:-
There are options for inserting notes, text, freehand drawing and stamps. From what I can see you can import an image to be used as a stamp. Maybe you import some images, stamp the locations of items and then use free-hand drawing to link them up.
only problem there is with all us what are >15 years old. i only a couple of years ago learnt how to cut and paste without getting glue all over the keyboard, and excell is a magical mystery known only to a few. and cansomeone tell me what is a spreadsheet that ain't a covering for the marital bed when it's cold.
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The Ghost
I have to chime in sadly. As far as I would be concerned liability for design should rest solely on the architect. I would demur from contributing to the design personally so that if anything goes wrong I can point at the architect so long as my bit was ok. Which it would be.
if any architect ask you to draw where those electric points going .
then you are doing his job . is down to him and his client to discuses where thing are going .and you my friend, will follow the those plans set out .
then you are doing his job . is down to him and his client to discuses where thing are going .and you my friend, will follow the those plans set out .
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Toneyz
Is this the first time that you have dealt with this architect? Are you also pricing it up as you want to be careful if you design it and they use your design for others to price against and you lose out? what type of new build is by the impression that I get that it is a one-off house is there a spec?
You can import a PDF plan in to autocad, and then add to it from there. But that has quite a steep price tag and learning curve if you arent alrready a user. Draftsight is a free alternative to autocad, and it looks like you can get a plugin to allow importing of PDFs but I have never used it.
don't need a full set, just the bollox.
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Nigel
Firstly the architect is not asking you to design. He is asking you to mark up where the points will go. Completely different.
In business you can either be a difficult person to do business or a good person to do business with.
Personally I would look at the time this would take me to do this (prob 15 mins max) and then look at the potential benifit v potential nuisance to me.
Potential benifit:
Client happy
Potential architect recommendation to future clients
Build a good relationship
Potential nuisance:
15 mins of time gone
It really is a no brainer and anyone telling you to tell the architect to stick it is telling you to run your business badly.
The architect is likely to Autocad your recommendations anyway so I would happily just mark up the PDF with pen and send back.
In business you can either be a difficult person to do business or a good person to do business with.
Personally I would look at the time this would take me to do this (prob 15 mins max) and then look at the potential benifit v potential nuisance to me.
Potential benifit:
Client happy
Potential architect recommendation to future clients
Build a good relationship
Potential nuisance:
15 mins of time gone
It really is a no brainer and anyone telling you to tell the architect to stick it is telling you to run your business badly.
The architect is likely to Autocad your recommendations anyway so I would happily just mark up the PDF with pen and send back.
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MDJ
I have always found Architects very useful actually, they know more than some of you guys think, I agree with ESSEX and his view in this thread, he is giving you an idea, you can always ask him to alter it, it looks half decent to me, I haven't spent too much time looking at it mind lol
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Toneyz
Should I be giving you a funny or dumb for that remark hopefully not the later?
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Nigel
Come on, this is really not rocket science. Do you really think the architect would be asking the electrical contractor if their was someone living there?
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elsparko
i dont need the goodwill of architects to survive, vice versa i think you will find!
its the architects job to mark up the drawings, whats the guy gonna do when the customers start moaning "that wasnt supposed to be there" its going to be the sparkies liability to fix at his own cost
some jobs arent worth the hassle, and this is one of them.
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elsparko
someone is paying for building the property = the customer
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Squid
Its the proper way as then its easier to arrange the furniture in the room, in the past the Victorians wanted "privacy" but later on sling a radiator on to a wall then your options are a lot worse, nothing worse then being sat on a sofa and someone walks in to a rooms a whacks your cup of tea all over you lap when the doo its the end of the sofa. The English had some weird ideas in the past, don't get me started on sash windows.
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Squid
Architects are always looking to build a relationship with good contractors and if a good job is done will always put a recommendation forward to the client.
I didn't say that some was living in the house mate. There maybe someone who is buying the house....
What budget would you put on it?
Do you use downlights or pendants?
Do they want the TV on the chimney or stuck in the corner..
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elsparko
i dont mind doing favours for EXISTING relationships with clients, im not going to waste my time on the offchance that someone on a high horse thinks they have me over a barrel to do their jobs for them
if you call up the architect to help you pull in some cables what do you reckon they would say?
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elsparko
this is the job description for an architect
Architects work in the construction industry designing new buildings, restoring and conserving old buildings and developing new ways of using existing buildings. They are involved in construction projects from the earliest stages right through to completion. ... preparing and presenting design proposals to clients
Architects work in the construction industry designing new buildings, restoring and conserving old buildings and developing new ways of using existing buildings. They are involved in construction projects from the earliest stages right through to completion. ... preparing and presenting design proposals to clients
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