Has any manufacturer come out with a compliant flush mounted CU? The ones I can see have either a plastic back and a metal door or a metal back and a plastic door.

It looks as if compliant CUs will have to have opaque metal doors. In this case I can't see the point of the door being some sort of flap - why can't the door cover the whole CU as you see in distribution boards? The Germans cracked this years ago see e.g. the ABB Striebel&John CUs or the Hager Volta CUs which have plain metal doors which are relatively inconspicuous even if mounted on the wall of a living room. The problem is that these CUs all have plastic backs not metal backs as far as I can see.

But anyway what is the basis that they should be metal? Amendment 3 421.1.201 specifies that CUs shall "comply with BS EN 61439-3 and shall have their enclosure manufactured from non-combustible material". BEAMA has published clarification that this precludes glow-wire rated plastics but what authority do they have? Surely it should be in the amendment if the rule is that specific? The new on-site guide section 2.2.6 repeats the BEAMA clarification but on what basis? Surely the IET-published on-site guide should take its information from its regulations not from some other third-party's opinion, however well-regarded. The glow-wire tests are specifically designed to show that plastics are non-combustible so why do they not comply? IET should provide justification for why only metal CU's qualify for the non-combustible material rule.
 
Has any manufacturer come out with a compliant flush mounted CU? The ones I can see have either a plastic back and a metal door or a metal back and a plastic door.

It looks as if compliant CUs will have to have opaque metal doors. In this case I can't see the point of the door being some sort of flap - why can't the door cover the whole CU as you see in distribution boards? The Germans cracked this years ago see e.g. the ABB Striebel&John CUs or the Hager Volta CUs which have plain metal doors which are relatively inconspicuous even if mounted on the wall of a living room. The problem is that these CUs all have plastic backs not metal backs as far as I can see.

But anyway what is the basis that they should be metal? Amendment 3 421.1.201 specifies that CUs shall "comply with BS EN 61439-3 and shall have their enclosure manufactured from non-combustible material". BEAMA has published clarification that this precludes glow-wire rated plastics but what authority do they have? Surely it should be in the amendment if the rule is that specific? The new on-site guide section 2.2.6 repeats the BEAMA clarification but on what basis? Surely the IET-published on-site guide should take its information from its regulations not from some other third-party's opinion, however well-regarded. The glow-wire tests are specifically designed to show that plastics are non-combustible so why do they not comply? IET should provide justification for why only metal CU's qualify for the non-combustible material rule.

You've answered all your own questions there fella.

The bit in the new amendment about 'steel being an example of a non-combustible material' is nothing but a red herring. Any board that truly complies with BS EN 61439-3 will by definition be non-combustible.

My advice: Don't worry about it. Make sure your boards, whether metal or plastic, conform to the new product standard and you'll be just fine.

In reference to your original question about flush boards, Contactum do metal front and metal back flush boards. They are quite nice IMHO.
 
If it's flushed in to a wall then the back half will either be surrounded by masonry (non combustible) or in a stud wall which could easily be surrounded by plasterboard (non combustible)
 
re: "Contactum do metal front and metal back flush boards"

According to their website the Contactum flush board is made to BS EN 60439-3 not BS EN 61439-3

Only their distribution boards are to BS EN 61439-3

As of January any DB will have to be made to 61439-3 as that is when the new product standard comes into force. Coincidentally, this is also when the new ammendment comes in to force.
 

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