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Hi guys,
Just wondering if I can pick the brains of a few CCTV installers.
We are concerned about a neighbour using CCTV from their house to watch us. They live opposite us and have the camera pointed from a window looking out across the road and onto our property. I believe this is not the use for CCTV as it is for recording the users property and should not face onto a public highway and onto other people premises. Is there any regulations I can quote to back up my argument, or is it just invasion of privacy?
Thanks for any help on the matter, don't do any CCTV and just want to be a bit clued up on the situation before I talk to the neighbour.
Cheers
 
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They live opposite us and have the camera pointed from a window looking out across the road and onto our property. I believe this is not the use for CCTV as it is for recording the users property and should not face onto a public highway and onto other people premises
yes their is a legislation brought in by the government, called nosey parker legislation.;)
 

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The Law on Domestic CCTV: (Home CCTV Law)
The Data Protection Act does not apply to individuals’ private or household purposes. So if you install a CCTV camera on your own home to protect it from burglary or anti-social behaviour, the DPA will not apply to you. (Section 36 of Data Protection Act 1998.)

However that is not to say that you can use CCTV anyway you like. For example CCTV Cameras being deliberately pointed on areas outside of your property, could amount to harassment and potentially give rise to prosecution under the Public Order Act or Protection from Harassment Act.


Question: Can I, or my neighbours, install CCTV?
Answer:You can install CCTV for your home without breaking the Law, if the cameras are installed on residential property and are for personal domestic use, they are unlikely to breach any laws even if the camera overlooks the street or other areas near the house. If you are concerned about the use of domestic CCTV, it may be worth contacting your local council and police.


Question: Can my landlord use CCTV in communal areas?
Answer: Yes, usually they will need to make you aware of this and explain why they have installed the cameras. The purpose and motive behind the CCTV cameras is very important.


Question: Do I need a license to install CCTV cameras at my front door?
Answer: In short, no you don't. As long as the purpose of the CCTV is to protect your property. Just make sure you are not breaking the law by spying on the public or using CCTV for data gathering. (For example do not record the number plate of every car that passes your house, do not try to make a database of all the people that live on the road or keep an eye on your neighbours activities.)
 
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Hi guys.
Thanks for the input, especially buzz.
Don't want to go into too much detail, but we have had numerous run ins with the neighbour using the CCTV and they have a camera pointing straight at our property and feel they are recording our movements outside the house. We have also had visitors to our house being stopped by the neighbour in the petrol station telling them various statements, which are not true. So feel we are being harassed directly and indirectly. Maybe a call to the council and police will need to be the next step?
Anyway thanks for the input.
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It’s hard to prove that they are recording your property, and not their own.

Can you see their camera? Does it appear to be not pointing at their driveway or garden?
Is it directed at your door for example?

It would have to be a fairly good camera to focus on anything across the street, so I think they know it’s p***ing you off and are deliberately trying to intimidate.
 
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Hi Buzz, will have a chat with the police like you say.
The camera is a stand alone type sat in the lounge window facing straight across the road onto our driveway/ front of house. The blinds are down but open so seems they are trying to record secretly-ish. The last straw was the other day when a visitor to my house told me that the neighbour had stopped them in the petrol station to voice their opinion of us. Getting a bit much involving others outside of the house now, and need to look at getting this sorted out.
Cheers for all the help.
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If it makes you feel better. If the camera is behind glass, it’ll see nothing at night apart from the reflection of the infra red emitters.
 

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Have noticed Police sometimes give the game away ,parking their cars where covert private CCTV is.
(that never looks good if its your house)
--If have some "propper trouble makers"---CCTV can improve things!
(I also must feel insecure -as I often have my curtains drawn..with no need to peek)
 

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Personal experience, I’m afraid. I’ve got a camera trained on my van on my drive, but it’s behind a window. Great during the day, but as soon as infra red comes on, I get a black screen with a circle of little white dots.

Worse when there’s rain on the window as well
 

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I’m hoping the ring of red lights and the big yellow sign saying I’ve got cctv is enough for the average toe rag to not bother with my little van and try somewhere else.
 

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I hope so too , but get a discreet outdoor one to back that philosophy up just in case.
 

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Get a big camera and point it at their house, doesn't even have to work what's good for the goose....................!
 
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