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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[nicebutdim]

I know Quickwire are relative newcomers, and there are quite a few other easy-style connectors out there, but I do think Quickwire will be the new "Wago" for lighting. I also know that many think the cost is quite high, but the time-savings are considerable.
I love new technology like this. Same as I embraced Quinetic many years ago, when the time savings and lack of raggling(chasing) plastering and painting made it a new solution for many cases.
Wireless smoke alarms with radio modules to interlink, and a 10 year life shows the same type of savings...no wiring, chasing, redecoration...might seem expensive, but compared with the alternative, money well spent.
No race to the bottom, guys and girls...spec the good, clever modern stuff...do the job fast and well, no call-backs...and happy clients.
Just my random ramblings...but remember when we had no LED head-torches or cordless drills etc? Now we wouldn't work without them.
The cheapskate boys will always get work, but the quality electricians will always get quality work, and that is what matters in the long term.

I'd place quickwire in a different category to wireless interlinks. While both offer time saving solutions, at a price, there's no prospect of wireless failure with their connectors.

Wireless switching and smoke detector interconnection is something I'd only consider when adding to an existing installation, where it saves considerable time and upheaval, and there's no question that this may often be the better option for customers. For new installations I'm firmly of the opinion that everthing should be hardwired.

I'm not sure about the t connectors but I thought that too about the switch and load. If you look there's little holes in the sides I believe you can get a probe in there. I'll try it later but would be pretty sure thats what it's for.

That thought struck me last night, but I didn't have one to hand. Looking at images online I could only see holes on either side, so wonder if that's what they really are and, if so, where CPC can be accessed.

Edit: seems I should have looked elsewhere as this was answered in Quickwire's FAQ section, back in 2017. All of their junctions have test points.

Are there any test points for a meter?

Yes, all our junction boxes now come with test holes.

www.quickwire.co.uk

 

[Aaron b]

I'd place quickwire in a different category to wireless interlinks. While both offer time saving solutions, at a price, there's no prospect of wireless failure with their connectors.

Wireless switching and smoke detector interconnection is something I'd only consider when adding to an existing installation, where it saves considerable time and upheaval, and there's no question that this may often be the better option for customers. For new installations I'm firmly of the opinion that everthing should be hardwired.



That thought struck me last night, but I didn't have one to hand. Looking at images online I could only see holes on either side, so wonder if that's what they really are and, if so, where CPC can be accessed.

Edit: seems I should have looked elsewhere as this was answered in Quickwire's FAQ section, back in 2017. All of their junctions have test points.

Are there any test points for a meter?

Yes, all our junction boxes now come with test holes.

www.quickwire.co.uk

Here's a picture if it helps

 

[mainline]

Is that one you installed? It looks rough, copper exposed on the L & N, and all looks a bit tight for space.

I don't like those white connectors, always remind me of Chinese carp.

 

[Raptor0014]

I guess they just couldn’t be arse here and made a token effort with a single conduit saddle.

 

[nicebutdim]

I guess they just couldn’t be arse here and made a token effort with a single conduit saddle.

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Reminds me of a short video from @dseselectric of a car charger install.

I'd hoped to post in reply, but the bugger seems to have taken it down.

Edit: it's still there - check out this masterpiece..

 

[SparkyChick]

Reminds me of a short video from @dseselectric of a car charger install.

I'd hoped to post in reply, but the bugger seems to have taken it down.

Edit: it's still there - check out this masterpiece..

Not being funny, but who in their right mind would agree to pay for that???

Truly shocking!

 

[Raptor0014]

Reminds me of a short video from @dseselectric of a car charger install.

I'd hoped to post in reply, but the bugger seems to have taken it down.

Edit: it's still there - check out this masterpiece..

Yeah I saw that. Made me chuckle as I’ve seen a few ---- EV charge point installs that I get asked to rectify.

 

[nicebutdim]

Not being funny, but who in their right mind would agree to pay for that???

Truly shocking!

I think it's fair to say most people would hit the roof if presented with that.

 

[Raptor0014]

Not being funny, but who in their right mind would agree to pay for that???

Truly shocking!

I’ve had to sort a few, including one where they had TT’d it and connected it back to the PME!

I wouldn’t mind but the charge point had built in PFP.

 

[swaRRR]

I guess they just couldn’t be arse here and made a token effort with a single conduit saddle.

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That's not even rough it's just pure laziness. Would take literally 5 minutes to put another half dozen in.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Or even vertically by the side of the RWP and horizontally under the widow, there may not be enough cable, but nothing a nice neat 45deg angle under the window would not cure and look much neater.

 

[Raptor0014]

Quote from the owner - “It’s ok, it’s outside so nobody touches it”

 

[Welchyboy1]

A few pictures from my phone of past jobs

Just for clarity, the 3 brown 16mm singles taped up coming out of the trunking are fed from the crappy distributuion board pictured,supplied from on the top right Triple pole breaker, 63A, three phase 400V , trunking was not earthed, went to another moody three phase board the other side of the warehouse about 40 meters away, pretty much taped up their entire length, must have took most of the day taping them all together, they were joined with 30A connector blocks about 4 times throughout the run

 

[Raptor0014]

A few pictures from my phone of past jobs

Just for clarity, the 3 brown 16mm singles taped up coming out of the trunking are fed from the crappy distributuion board pictured,supplied from on the top right Triple pole breaker, 63A, three phase 400V , trunking was not earthed, went to another moody three phase board the other side of the warehouse about 40 meters away, pretty much taped up their entire length, must have took most of the day taping them all together, they were joined with 30A connector blocks about 4 times throughout the run

Did you get the ‘it works ok ’ response when you pointed it out?

 

[Welchyboy1]

Did you get the ‘it works ok ’ response when you pointed it out?

Definatly a contender for the longest ever EICR observations list!

 

[Raptor0014]

And this weeks award for the most ridiculously placed consumer unit and grouted in shower isolation switch goes to…

The hidden in the top corner of a built in wardrobe.

I do wonder what some people think when they do stuff like this.

 

[westward10]

Seems like someone mislaid some of the linking kit.

 

[nicebutdim]

And this weeks award for the most ridiculously placed consumer unit and grouted in shower isolation switch goes to…

The hidden in the top corner of a built in wardrobe.

I do wonder what some people think when they do stuff like this.

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One saving grace being the reasonably decent isolator.

 

[Aaron b]

And this weeks award for the most ridiculously placed consumer unit and grouted in shower isolation switch goes to…

The hidden in the top corner of a built in wardrobe.

I do wonder what some people think when they do stuff like this.

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And how do they end up with chint Hager and wylex?

 

[Raptor0014]

And how do they end up with chint Hager and

Guess it was mix of what was left on the van on a Friday afternoon

 

[littlespark]

I wish I hadn’t taken the cover off now….

New customer. Lighting fault, breaker would reset, 4 or 5 times… then wouldn’t reset at all, and tripped with a crack.
Boiler is also off this lighting circuit so I’ve ran a temp supply for that just now.

Reading 5Mohms and rising on L-E and N-E.
Suspect circuit is second from left and disconnected for now.

Other issues with board include inner cores of flex on left most breaker supplying bell transformer (no bell) into exposed connector block. Took that out straight away.

There’s so much excess copper on show.. and no idea with the black going into a breaker.
Neutrals don’t correspond with lines and this was supposedly rewired in 2002.

I’ll get all the faults sorted, then get some rcbo’s for it.

 

[pirate]

 

[pirate]

This might confuse a DIYer...either the label is on upside down, or the cables are reversed on the tray...
It works though, now!
I apologise for the state of the ferrules, they were re-done once I had the unit running.

 

[littlespark]

So bad you posted the image twice.

 

[pirate]

Like New York, so good they named it twice!
Listen, I'm hopeless with posting stuff, so My apologies!

 

[nicebutdim]

This might confuse a DIYer...either the label is on upside down, or the cables are reversed on the tray...
It works though, now!
I apologise for the state of the ferrules, they were re-done once I had the unit running.

I've seen this with cheap lights bought from Amazon, one of which stated on its product page that blue was line and brown was neutral. That one was handed to the guy that bought it, with clear instructions about what he could do with it.

 

[pirate]

Indeed, @nicebutdim
I had an accessory recently where the wiring instructions were written step-by-step, and there were illustrations too...problem was that they conflicted. OK for me to sort out what was what, but anyone following the diagram would end up with a blown timeclock. I contacted the manufacturers, they thanked me for being in touch, and said they would review things...
Aye, right...as we say in Scotland.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Tom Jones greatest hits perhaps?

 

[JBW175]

Bathroom light was wired directly into the shower isolator. Neutral burnt out and insulation shot on shower circuit. 40 year old board with no RCD protection, so that’s added to the quote too.

 

[Baddegg]

Bathroom light was wired directly into the shower isolator. Neutral burnt out and insulation shot on shower circuit. 40 year old board with no RCD protection, so that’s added to the quote too.


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At first glance after 2 Guinness I thought that lower cable was under water!

 

[Raptor0014]

Nice cable management. I especially like the attention to detail on the glanding for the SWA……

 

[Raptor0014]

Installing some outside sockets today and notice that their EV charge point was fed with ordinary SWA. It piqued my curiosity as I also do EV charge points and know they have to have active load management. Along with OCPD & RCD protection, though some are now starting to come with both 6mA DC & 30mA protection built in. The charge point installed has neither OCPD or 30mA protection built in. Just 6mA DC.

As there was no seperate cable for the CT clamp and they weren’t using EV ultra/Hyper Connect I quizzed the owner on where the supply for the charge point was.

Now there are a number of plethora of ‘issues’ here.

But I have circled the supply to the EV charge point. The main cutout rating is also only 60A.

Funny enough they didn’t have a certificate for it and I’m betting the DNO haven’t been informed.

Customer tried to get hold of installer whilst I was there but the no. was switched off. So I’ve left him with all the details of how it should be done. So he can quiz the installer. He asked if I could rectify it all which I said of course. But he should approach the installer first as they should rectify it FoC.

 

[pc1966]

Now there are a number of plethora of ‘issues’ here.

Indeed, but the oddest to me is why saw the right end of the MET? Not that the left end is being used for a fixing screw!

 

[Raptor0014]

Indeed, but the oddest to me is why saw the right end of the MET? Not that the left end is being used for a fixing screw!

Who knows? I often wonder when I see stuff like this if they were pi55ed!

 

[richy3333]

Oh joy of joy!

 

[LewisM]

Earth 2nd from top is very cute.

 

[Julie.]

Oh joy of joy!

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That's one of them there metal consumer units we had to remove years ago, 'cos they were dangerous.

Fortunately we moved to plastic!

 

[timhoward]

Now there are a number of plethora of ‘issues’ here.

I don't know what I'd have done in your situation. As that's only a 60947-3 isolator the meter tails are effectively extended all the way to the EVCP....!

 

[littlespark]

There’s pyro in there as well!
Easily damaged with the pot and seals protruding in like that.

 

[richy3333]

There’s pyro in there as well!
Easily damaged with the pot and seals protruding in like that.

Whole house was originally wired in Pyro. The T&E as later circuits. Given him a huge price for updating the board and he's accepted!