Electrical Certificates for Extension and Rewire

[PatrickM]

I have had an extension and complete rewire of my house. Towards the end of the build the builder declared bankruptcy (long story). He has since disappeared and I have no communication with him.

I am now trying gain building regulations completion but I don't have any electrical certificates for the rewire or new extension, which building control need.

I don't know the electrician he used so can't contact him to issue the certificates. What are my options here if any? Building control want notification that the installation has been carried out correctly.

Can I get another electrician to carry out an EICR and then notify building control?

Any help appreciated.

 

[Andy78]

Can I get another electrician to carry out an EICR and then notify building control?

You could do. But ask building control if this will be suitable first, explaining that you have no access to the original certificates or contact with contractors.

 

[SparkyChick]

The process you need to follow is regularisation. As @Andy78 says, talk to building control and find out what they will accept for this. I've done this here in Wales and the electrician needed to be a member of a scheme, produce an EICR which is then sent to building control.

I suspect there may be a planning charge for this.

 

[Octopus]

Your first step is to establish, in writing, what your building control officer will accept................................. don't believe everything you read on the internet.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I have had an extension and complete rewire of my house. Towards the end of the build the builder declared bankruptcy (long story). He has since disappeared and I have no communication with him.

I am now trying gain building regulations completion but I don't have any electrical certificates for the rewire or new extension, which building control need.

I don't know the electrician he used so can't contact him to issue the certificates. What are my options here if any? Building control want notification that the installation has been carried out correctly.

Can I get another electrician to carry out an EICR and then notify building control?

probably people not paying on time!

 

[Octopus]

Why don't people ask who the subcontractors are?

If I don't meet the client and give them my card, I leave one by their kettle so they know who I am!

 

[buzzlightyear]

Why don't people ask who the subcontractors are

the possibly he been shafted has well!

 

[Octopus]

the possibly he been shafted has well!

Quite possibly, but for a fee, he may appear, do the final testing, etc, etc

 

[buzzlightyear]

Quite possibly, but for a fee, he may appear, do the final testing, etc, etc

once you energised the system ,then he should part p it .
I'm not going to put the bullets in the gun for the op, then its up to him to sort it out him self .

 

[Sparkingmad]

Definitely need to contact building control and get in writing what exactly they want to see or accept to get building regs passed and certificated. This might seem a daft question but did you take photographs of each stage of the build? If you get an electrician to carry out an eicr it would not be the same as the electrician who carried out the work and issued a cert and building control notification. However if you have supporting evidence of cable routes and wiring installation methods ie pictures that could be submitted to building control along with eicr that might go along way to getting approval.
I feel for you, as I have just done a kitchen extension and have been asked to sign it off for building control. I didn’t do any of the original wiring in the extension and won’t sign it off as part of my work. I have told the customer that I am happy to issue a certificate and part p approval but it will only be for the work carried out by myself. I ended up running a new ring main, and radial circuits into a service cupboard and wired every appliance through isolators off of those new circuits. That way I have kept my installation separate from what was done by the other sparky. I can now issue him with both a certificate and part p approval on the new board and wiring carried out by myself.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

I find it staggering that major electrical works are carried out and the person paying for the work has absolutely no idea who did it!

 

[Des 56]

Short of the Building control wanting to rip your installation to bits,a eicr is going to be as good as they can expect

If they are like any of the BC bods I have ever met,its the piece of paper that absolves them of responsibility that is important to them
Now whether that piece of paper is a eic or a eicr will likely not interest most inspectors,many would not know the difference anyway

 

[Toneyz]

Your first step is to establish, in writing, what your building control officer will accept................................. don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Speak to the building control officer explain the situation in most cases they can see that you are trying to do the right thing, they may know of this builder and know the electrical contractor they use (unless in-house) do you still owe the builder any money still?