Emergency lighting test -pricing

[r1ck1b]

I have been asked to submit a quotation to carry out emergency lighting pir's for a chain of medium sized shops at various locations throughout Scotland .could anyone give me an idea of typical pricing for this as it is the first time I have had to quote for em testing only .

 

[i=p/u]

Charge per hour, how many points , how bigs the building

 

[i=p/u]

Fixed price might be better but base it on a day rate+ certification

 

[r1ck1b]

Fixed price might be better but base it on a day rate+ certification

fixed price would be best but there are multiple shops all over .any ideas for a cost .
id assume an hour or two for traveling and three hours on the job for testing ,

any ideas ,do you do anything similar

cheers

 

[i=p/u]

Naw but you knock breaker off or key switches and wait... You bright lad work it out as you know how long will take you and what's involved

 

[Knobhead]

Do you really think people will tell you their pricing structure? It’s a dog eat dog world out there and you’re a competitor.

 

[tazz]

Not one post here stating the BS5266 standard.....so i presume you will just attend site and switch off the breaker or keyswitch a wait a while

 

[Engineer54]

Not one post here stating the BS5266 standard.....so i presume you will just attend site and switch off the breaker or keyswitch a wait a while

I was thinking exactly along the same lines!! ...lol!!

 

[Knobhead]

Not one post here stating the BS5266 standard.....so i presume you will just attend site and switch off the breaker or keyswitch a wait a while

Methinks you've found a chancer in the nest of snakes.

Good on you tazz

 

[i=p/u]

Come on , yous no doubt are qualified electricians when you are sent to test em lighting , you pick your time that suits and carry out the tests.. End of . You ain't designing it, which requires le more knowledge and experience... Or tell me how I'm wrong and il take it on the gob.

 

[Des 56]

Come on , yous no doubt are qualified electricians when you are sent to test em lighting , you pick your time that suits and carry out the tests.. End of . You ain't designing it, which requires le more knowledge and experience... Or tell me how I'm wrong and il take it on the gob.

Because of full duration discharge,testing times are one of 2 choices,time of minimum risk or alternate fittings discharged

These can be life critical installations,so although they can be done by us average sparks with a copy of 5226,I believe it may be wise to either specialise in fire alarm and EM lighting or leave it to those who do

 

[i=p/u]

Well I'm sorry des for speaking back to knowledgeable guy like yourself but I don't think trade should be divided, it's a sparks job . And although I don't have any certificates to say I have some knowledge of em lighting there's guides all over web although the 1 day course is advisable with proper insurance in place . Peace.

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We are ok to pull the cables but not connect up, this is what I hate lol

 

[Des 56]

I did mean it was just my opinion.

I perhaps should have worded it as "my own actions"

I have no problem with any trained spark such as yourself doing any work such as this, as long as he is armed with the right tools,ie the Bs standard

I "personally" would freel uneasy about doing so. because I believe I have great gaps in my own understanding of the standard

I wouldn't for one moment doubt your capability to do this work

 

[Engineer54]

There is no need for any specialist involvement here, but if you're going to take on a job that has it's own set of regulations outside of BS7671, then you best be knowledgeable of those regulations!! Or be prepared to face the consequences if it's found that you haven't conformed to those regulations.

Far too many think that the only regulations an electrician needs to apply in his day to day working life is BS7671, Unfortunately they couldn't be more Wrong!!

 

[i=p/u]

It's an expensive book yeah.. I wouldn't dream of designing one at present, well I would give it a go but I wouldn't sell it. ... Anytime my old boss mentioned em lighting, it was go test and fix everything that doesn't pass, so there's obviously a lot I don't even know.. I'm going todo the course.. Do t know about buying the book .<<<cheap skate..

 

[Octopus]

So all over Scotland, need to attend each site for xx?? hours/minutes.

Could be fun costing that one!

 

[tazz]

The BS5266 is not just for designing, it is also recommendations for service and testing. and should be tested a minimum of twice per year with a 1 hour discharge, and 1 test being fully 3 hour discharge of all em lighting (iom should still be old 4 times per year) This method is to recycel the nicad batteries by discharging and recharging...any other proceedure for testing such as quick 30 minute tests will actually damage the batteries, by nicad memory effect, where the batteries will never again charge to full capacity.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

fixed price would be best but there are multiple shops all over .any ideas for a cost .
id assume an hour or two for traveling and three hours on the job for testing ,

any ideas ,do you do anything similar

cheers

come on..
no assumptions here....is there...lol....

 

[infinity]

If it's already been designed and installed and the building use has not changed it's not going I be difficult to test the install is still adequate. Grab a copy of the the relevant BS Though as I once did its quote east reading actually compared to 7671!

 

[tazz]

If it's already been designed and installed and the building use has not changed it's not going I be difficult to test the install is still adequate. Grab a copy of the the relevant BS Though as I once did its quote east reading actually compared to 7671!

As we have all tried to say here, there is nothing wrong with any spark carrying out EM testing, but the key is Period checking and Duration times...but there are still other proceedures to follow, Em log book, Em numbering, onsite period testing, off site contractor testing. So we need BS 5266 to design and service it, BS7671 to install it, and our safety at work act to enforce it....

 

[i=p/u]

Only government buildings and big companies follow this procedure tho. The rest say need a cert for next week.

 

[7029 dave]

tazz I have read your threads on fire alarms you are the man!!.Over the decades things have changed soo much,I remember wiring up old analogue 3 wire/ 2 wire systems before smoke detectors were even invented just plain ole call points and sirens.Even EM sounds a bit advanced lol.

 

[i=p/u]

Think he fancies you

 

[tazz]

Only government buildings and big companies follow this procedure tho. The rest say need a cert for next week.

Would recommend you follow the standard for all sites large or small....the log book and cert are proof you carried out all test to the best of your ability, and where stated, any failures you have entered into the log by EM number and location. once you take any contract on, it becomes your responsability to ensure all lighting is fully operational.

 

[Octopus]

The problem with EM lights is that few people actually understand them!

 

[i=p/u]

Understand fully and wouldn't even consider not offering log book. I'm only wee duck in small pond and I do want to know what I'm at, which is why I'm going to jump on me lighting course v soon and that's for my own benifit.

 

[i=p/u]

Yh they go on when power goes off heheeeeee

 

[tazz]

It isnt rocket science i promise you....its just a logical test procedure, same as a installation test...your log is the certificate...R1/R2, insulation and earth loop are all tested and then recorded onto the cert, which is technically you log. You number every EM light as you would markup your RBO on a db schedule...........hope this puts it into prespective..