Flex and push-fit connectors (mostly in lights)

[Electrics]

How do you guys terminate these when using flex?

I'm talking these things found in light fittings: https://www.saxbylighting.com/image...a61727463c42674eaa46ff0000f3e563.jpg?sfvrsn=0

I twist the strands together and then try to push them in. The problem is a lot of the time the connection doesn't feel great and often you'll get some strands push back out as you push the wire in, meaning you have to take out, retwist and then redo.

A right PITA.

Is there really no better way of doing this? I thought about ferrules but they don't fit.

So how do you do it with flex?

 

[Electrics]

Surely it males it no difference to a solid conductor at this point and, being uninsulated, has minimal plastic/shoulder to obstruct insertion?

That was my thinking. If properly crimped then i don't see how it's different to using a solid core since that's essentially what we've made it by using the ferrule.

 

[Electrics]

27 posts over fitting a stranded wire to a connector, a connector which will accept this type of wire. Unbelievable no wonder this country is the way it is?

As an apprentice i guess i'll ask my questions elsewhere in future ?‍

 

[telectrix]

As an apprentice i guess i'll ask my questions elsewhere in future ?‍

don't take some of the posts too seriously. each one of us has our own ideals. but basically, back to subject, ferriules are designed to be used under screw terminals, stopping the fine stranded cables squirting out to the sides and making a poor connection.

 

[Electrics]

don't take some of the posts too seriously. each one of us has our own ideals. but basically, back to subject, ferriules are designed to be used under screw terminals, stopping the fine stranded cables squirting out to the sides and making a poor connection.

I get that but what about Lister's point? I too don't see a reason that a ferrule couldn't be used (providing they could physically fit in) - done properly it would be mechanically sound and lead to a much better connection, no?

 

[GBDamo]

27 posts over fitting a stranded wire to a connector, a connector which will accept this type of wire. Unbelievable no wonder this country is the way it is?

Wind you neck in ya miserable git.

These things vary in quality a lot.

I've had some that are like playing whack-a-mole, you sick the live in, the earth pops out, you stick it back in and out pops the neutral. You perform the same rigmarole a few times before going postal, ripping the damn thing down and setting off to force feed it to the trade counter monkey that told you these were "top quality".

..better now, thanks.

 

[littlespark]

I’ve had that happen before…. All the text just disappears!
I found that if I go to another different thread, then go back into the one I was replying to, the text magically comes back.

 

[pirate]

Tiny update...fitted the remaining 3 wall lights today. Not black and blue wires, but blue and grey...changes within the same room, and yellow flexible conduit visible... Line is still heavier gauge than neutral, but there is a looped cpc in green/yellow (and white paint) so maybe the first one had a cpc after all, buried in the wall. I'm not taking it off to find out.
The bubble-wrap insulation is evident around the metal lampholders, but who knew it could take the heat from filament bulbs? Oh well, job done...