On the schedule of test results on niceic cerificate where it says points served.Does a double socket mean 1 point or 2?
NICEIC Certification Scheme Points served on an niceic certificate
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A point is where an accessory is connected. so it doesn't mater if single or double it's still only one point. Would you count a 2 gang switch as 2 points?
Tell us how many you think it is,
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Octopus
How many people actually bother filling this out? Its not in the forms in the BYB
Just saying
Just saying
My company is niceic so its required on the schedule as we use their model forms of certificate
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Octopus
It may be on the form but BS 7671 doesn't state its needed.
Another reg made up by the NICEIC
What can you do though?
They are very touchy if blank boxes are left on their certs.
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Octopus
Not use their certs.....
It is part of the information required by 514.9
Size and number of conductors, points served, type of wiring. That's why those items are inserted into most inspection schedules.
But no, I never list number of points personally.
Don't leave them blank then .... put a line through them
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Octopus
But strangely absent from the model form on page 434
Tut tut andy hahaDon't leave them blank then .... put a line through them
Yes. I think the info in 514.9 is intended to be included in handover packs or permanent records in larger and more complex installations. The reg does say in simple installations in can be in the form of a schedule, a copy of which must be appended to the DB.
A switch isn't a point of utilisation.
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Octopus
With no reference to the sample form on page 434
Another senseless contribution from the IET...
Sometimes it is recorded separately from the schedule of test results, sometimes included within. It's been a requirement since at least the 16th that I know of.
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The Ghost
One good reason to put the number of points is to ensure if anyone adds anything you have a record to show that.
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Octopus
^^ thats easy on a new install, not so easy on a CU change........
I did a CU change a while back and the property is now being tidied up..... there are quite a few sockets that were concealed...... behind built in cupboards, behind very large units........ its not always possible to count them all!
I did a CU change a while back and the property is now being tidied up..... there are quite a few sockets that were concealed...... behind built in cupboards, behind very large units........ its not always possible to count them all!
Perhaps put not veried n/v instead and a note on the eic
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Easy way out in my opinion just count the points
I class it as one.A point by definition in the regs book is an accessory with a comnection that serves current carrying equipment.so i also say its 1 point.
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davesparks
That's because the model form is for test results, whereas the regulation mentioned above is about the circuit chart to be fixed at or near a DB.
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About the only use counting the number of points serves, is so if your totals don't add up you know you missed something.
As a further trivial point.
Kitchen with 10 downlights = 10 points
Kitchen with two bar lights, each with 5 lamps = 2 points
A "point" is the place where the cable connects.
Kitchen with 10 downlights = 10 points
Kitchen with two bar lights, each with 5 lamps = 2 points
A "point" is the place where the cable connects.
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