Using Fp 200 Gold 2.5mm for single spur from DB Thoughts???

[purcoto]

Using Fp 200 Gold for single spur from DB Thoughts???

 

[Lister1987]

What's your thinking behind it not being acceptable? Is the cable rated appropriately with appropriate protection if so I don't see any issue, the FP would have to be correctly terminated though.

 

[purcoto]

What's your thinking behind it not being acceptable? Is the cable rated appropriately with appropriate protection if so I don't see any issue, the FP would have to be correctly terminated though.

My thinking are thoose:flex shield maybe consider as an not appropriate even if is clipped directly with p clips to wall.And I was been ask to use 6amp Mcb as will supply single spur for 24 v CU.
Can find right section in regs to regarding type off cables.Clent ask and from my knowledge they introduce it in 2012 us a part of Prysman staff.
Wondering as will be only right next to Db 2 meter away can it be use as I know 2.5 still is ok but Fp 200 don't know .Couldn't find it in book and I'm not willing to installed .

 

[timhoward]

Not sure where the problem is. Done this plenty of times. 6 amp breaker also no issue.

 

[Darkwood]

As long as you are not thinking the foil wrap in anyway forms any added mechanical protection then yes it is suitable to use, I often use it to supply the Fire Alarm Panel itself with mains power.

 

[Vortigern]

I have confirmed this is OK directly with prysmian. If it is gold version then it most definitely ok as per manufacturer. Check the manufacturer when you get doubts/questions like this.

 

[purcoto]

Thank you very much for conformation.
Would be direct p clipped to wall in riser 1×2m,
over distribution board .looking for regs.as only can be done clipping as no space for conduit for mechanical protection.
Indeed will be use for spur wich is supply for Fire alarm door holder CU 24v.

 

[Darkwood]

As long as its fail safe then I'm not sure there is a requirement to even use fire rated, if it burns the supply to door magnet is cut and voila- job done, door closes.

 

[purcoto]

As long as its fail safe then I'm not sure there is a requirement to even use fire rated, if it burns the supply to door magnet is cut and voila- job done, door closes.

I was looking in regs why should I to not use fp 200 gold for short run clipped on surface wall

 

[DPG]

I was looking in regs why should I to not use fp 200 gold for short run clipped on surface wall

Not sure why there would a reg precluding this.

 

[MJPD29]

I was looking in regs why should I to not use fp 200 gold for short run clipped on surface wall

Don't think such a reg exists

 

[Darkwood]

I was looking in regs why should I to not use fp 200 gold for short run clipped on surface wall

I wasn't saying you cannot or should not use FP200, just bring up the point that there is no requirement to use a fire rated cable or similar.

 

[purcoto]

I wasn't saying you cannot or should not use FP200, just bring up the point that there is no requirement to use a fire rated cable or similar.

Thank you for reply .I want to have some relief because I never use fp to supply anything recurring 240.
Client ask me to use fp200 and wasn't sure I'll pass or not and will be complaining with 18 edition retarding use of it .As i always think i shouldn't use it if it consider flexible.

 

[Lister1987]

Thank you for reply .I want to have some relief because I never use fp to supply anything recurring 240.
Client ask me to use fp200 and wasn't sure I'll pass or not and will be complaining with 18 edition retarding use of it .As i always think i shouldn't use it if it consider flexible.

We should really be asking what is this spur going to feed? If it's a fire alarm then 5839-1 would in to play and that stipulates all cables forming part of the system (Inc supply) are to be fire rated.

If it's a Maglock door retainer then BS7273-4 would come into play, requiring units to fail safe.

 

[purcoto]

We should really be asking what is this spur going to feed? If it's a fire alarm then 5839-1 would in to play and that stipulates all cables forming part of the system (Inc supply) are to be fire rated.

If it's a Maglock door retainer then BS7273-4 would come into play, requiring units to fail safe.

Thank you for reply wold feed spur or CU 24 power supply part of i/o for door magnet.
Client was asking for certificate and I was convinced that to find regulation for fp200 2.5 as a part of fire alarm to understand that will comply with bs5839 regarding cabling of systems.
Regards