Wiring 2 lighting circuits using one 6 terminal junction box

[Paul Langham]

Hi there, my name is Paul and I'm currently studying towards a city and guilds level 2 electrical installation, we are currently on lighting circuits for our practical, we have been given a task to wire up 2 lighting circuits using a 6 terminal hager junction box, I'm ok with wiring one circuit from the supply in the box but struggling to get my head around wiring 2 from the JB, please excuse my ignorance with this but the tutor is not great at explaining things, I'm just struggling with where to terminate switch and light wires for 2nd circuit, and advice or even a wiring diagram would be highly appreciated, many thanks,

Paul .

 

[Midwest]

What sort of Hager JB is it? Is it two separate circuits (one ocpd) or one circuit with two sets of switch lights? Doubt if you could achieve with the former.

 

[westward10]

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[Paul Langham]

What sort of Hager JB is it? Is it two separate circuits (one ocpd) or one circuit with two sets of switch lights? Doubt if you could achieve with the former.

Hi there mate, it is actually 2 seperase circuits ?

 

[davesparks]

Hi there mate, it is actually 2 seperase circuits ?

Then common sense says they should be in two separate junction boxes.
There aren't enough terminals in a 6 terminal joint box to do this, each circuit will have permanent live, switched live, neutral and earth.

 

[Paul Langham]

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Hi westward, I can't seem to find it

 

[Paul Langham]

Then common sense says they should be in two separate junction boxes.
There aren't enough terminals in a 6 terminal joint box to do this, each circuit will have permanent live, switched live, neutral and earth.

This is what I was thinking, but the tutor showed us a completed one a pupil had completed in one of the previous classes and it was a mess with wires being connected with connector blocks as well ???

 

[westward10]

Hi westward, I can't seem to find it

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[Spoon]

Hi there mate, it is actually 2 seperase circuits ?

This is what I was thinking, but the tutor showed us a completed one a pupil had completed in one of the previous classes and it was a mess with wires being connected with connector blocks as well ???

As has already been mentioned by @davesparks. 2 circuits into 1 junction box is not a good idea. You would have to put a sticker on the junction box stating it's being fed from 2 sources and both sources need isolating before doing any maintenance.

 

[Midwest]

As has already been mentioned by @davesparks. 2 circuits into 1 junction box is not a good idea. You would have to put a sticker on the junction box stating it's being fed from 2 sources and both sources need isolating before doing any maintenance.

I mentioned it first

 

[Midwest]

Hi there mate, it is actually 2 seperase circuits ?

Are you sure you have the brief right?

 

[davesparks]

This is what I was thinking, but the tutor showed us a completed one a pupil had completed in one of the previous classes and it was a mess with wires being connected with connector blocks as well ???

Is this a training centre providing short courses by any chance?

 

[Pete999]

As has already been mentioned by @davesparks. 2 circuits into 1 junction box is not a good idea. You would have to put a sticker on the junction box stating it's being fed from 2 sources and both sources need isolating before doing any maintenance.

Agree not an ideal situation, imagine testing for dead and only isolating one circuit, I know you should check everything, that's why I said it's not an ideal situation, especially if there are two OCPDs involved.

 

[Spoon]

I mentioned it first

You just asked the question mate... @davesparks gets all the credit...

 

[Silly Sausage]

This is what I was thinking, but the tutor showed us a completed one a pupil had completed in one of the previous classes and it was a mess with wires being connected with connector blocks as well ???

I think we'd all like to see a picture of that and a copy of the actual question.

 

[Pete999]

You just asked the question mate... @davesparks gets all the credit...

Come on Lads stop acting like spoiled children,

 

[Spoon]

Come on Lads stop acting like spoiled children,

but daaaad.... he started it.....

 

[Pete999]

but daaaad.... he started it.....

Do you want to go to bed with no tea? behave will you, or I'll spank yer bottom. Wrong thing to say to Spoon, just realised.

 

[Octopus]

Could this not be 2 separate lights from 1 circuit using 1 junction box?

 

[Andy78]

This is what I was thinking, but the tutor showed us a completed one a pupil had completed in one of the previous classes and it was a mess with wires being connected with connector blocks as well ???

Connector blocks in a JB ? Are you on a plumbing course by any chance ?