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Darkwood

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

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I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. :omg_smile:

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That’s enough monkey business for one day, I'm outta here….lol.
[video=youtube;tn6N8SidEg8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn6N8SidEg8[/video]
 
We have a thread running at present http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...urrent-17th-edition-regs-12v.html#post1093624 and the poster has uploaded some beauties to show...
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Now this from what has been told was a buried service Pyro that was drilled thus the results so assume it was DNO fused at the extent of the blast.

The poster (a tenent not a sparks) said even he could have guessed the Pyro was there as it was evident where it entered... so award for DF of the year...

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We have a thread running at present http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk...urrent-17th-edition-regs-12v.html#post1093624 and the poster has uploaded some beauties to show...
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Now this from what has been told was a buried service Pyro that was drilled thus the results so assume it was DNO fused at the extent of the blast.

The poster (a tenent not a sparks) said even he could have guessed the Pyro was there as it was evident where it entered... so award for DF of the year...

They blew a few 100 amp fuses in the communal fuse cupboard, that is next to the main door to a block of flats

Here are some more from the alleged safe install & these were in plain sight to the Supervisor

In the 1st pic, you might just be able to make out the MICC PYRO cable under the orange cable clip at the bottom right of the board, it is close to the two wires though

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These next two are of the temporary MICC PYRO cable
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This is how the fuse box looks now

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I forgot to add the list of faults found within that installation was no less than 18, I was writing them down as inspector discovered them back in 2011 refurbishment program


  1. Dust cover left over the Smoke Alarm
  2. Smoke Alarm wires exposed via a hole in living room ceiling
  3. Extractor fans are not wired correctly
  4. Missing and unchanged units for extractor fans (in airing cupboard)
  5. Extractor fans set to wrong settings
  6. Extractor fans not fitted correctly to the wall
  7. Possible wrong external wall vents for extractor fans 2 different types of vent exist at present time
  8. Cables in airing cupboard connected with a connector block, taped with insulation tape exposing the bare connections to the connector block (in airing cupboard)
  9. The hole drilled into the mains Mineral-insulated copper-clad cable (MICC PYRO) cable (in airing cupboard)
  10. The damage caused to the fuse box because of the hole drilled into the mains (MICC PYRO) cable (in airing cupboard)
  11. Earth cable incorrectly and loosely fitted to the main gas feed on gas meter to the boiler and cooker (in airing cupboard)
  12. When using the microwave the lights in the kitchen flickers
  13. There is a 13 amp fuse fitted instead of a 3 amp on a fused light switch
  14. Changed outer sections of light fittings but not the internal fittings
  15. Electrical cables exposed via a hole in airing cupboard ceiling (in airing cupboard)
  16. No trunking for cables adjacent to gas and water pipes (in airing cupboard)
  17. Cables are overhanging the prepay electric meter adjacent to where I place the payment key to top up or access emergency credit (in airing cupboard)
  18. Missing 3 blank off’s on the fuse box (in airing cupboard)

Only 2 weeks ago they got round to changing the vent grill from a flap type to a slotted type & said I had the wrong extractor fan in the bathroom as it should of been a humidistat, hence my query in the other thread & again the extractor fan in the kitchen was allegedly wired up incorrectly, now I have two speeds (Trickle & Fast, with switch in on position & 15 minute fast in the off position reverting back to a trickle) to the kitchen fan & no off switch unless I isolate it at the RCD & it turns off the main sockets.

The Bathroom fan shares the same RCD as the Lights & the Smoke alarm

All done by the Housing authority's alleged NICEIC sparks & the Housing Authority is also registered as NICEIC registered, that said when typed in the name of the Housing to http://www.checkmynotification.com/ the latest entry is in 2010 & nothing since
 
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There was a socket on the other side of the wall higher up, so I pulled that back box out and followed the cable
where it came back through I drilled a tiny hole, started chopping out and came across that jb.
I was I was that lucky but there's more damage on other side of wall
 
There was a socket on the other side of the wall higher up, so I pulled that back box out and followed the cable
where it came back through I drilled a tiny hole, started chopping out and came across that jb.
I was I was that lucky but there's more damage on other side of wall

I would suggest getting your lotto tickets on tomorrow night mate as you obviously have luck on your side!! It is satisfying to find and fix faults efficiently, especially when you only have a rough inkling of where the dodgy connection probably is.

I had a lost CPC on lighting CCT to find on Monday, wasn't looking forward to it at all....spent two hours checking fittings with no joy...then went up in loft to find some clever arse had boxed off a small 'room' and I couldn't get into the remaining roof space...back to van for jigsaw and eventually got into the dustiest loft I have ever been in..great....but found it within 10 mins...exactly the same issue as yours...CPC had snapped off in JB....
 
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In regards to the picture of a socket with a another set of T&E what is your issue with it? I was told that that is allowed if for instance you were adding a kitchen ring in to a house that previously didn't have one. Admittedly the situation I can was a conduit earth system.

Regards
 
The pictures were from yesterday morning, I have yet to do a full test of the property, as it is occupied, I had to make it safe changing the 6mm and 10mm tails to 25mm, fit a new RCD for top board, terminate loose wires and turn off circuits with poor insulation resistance readings. I have a number of questions with the ring circuit you mention, extra cables being one of them most probably an entirely different circuit, which of course is a no-no.
You may notice the heat damage to the RCD lower neutral connection. This was a historic and continuing fault as part of the screw connection pulling on to the cable/bar was missing causing arcing.
 
Photo-0021 (2).jpgResponded to a call out to replace the usual broken pendant and glossed over light switch at a tenants property. Went to knock power off to find the main RCCB switch was already in the "off" position. That's odd I thought. Anyway on removal of the lid I was confronted with this delight!
Spoke to the tenant to find out if anyone had been tinkering. Apparently a few "months" earlier they had contacted the out of hours emergency electricians to restore their power. This crew were from the main contractor that service all the council properties in the city. To bypass a main switch is one thing but to connect the mains directly to an out going shower circuit is quite another. No one was scheduled to come back and rectify it either, as far as I was aware.
 

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