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AA410
Hi all have to install an alarm for the mother inlaw not had much todo with these whats the best radio or hard wired and what is a good make hope you can help many thanks
RISC0 595 panel. 8 wired zones and 8 wireless. google risco. a kit with panel, keypad, battery, FCU, everything except cable. £209+vat delivered. hard wire bell and keypad, best thing i've used for a domestic or small commercial, and i've been installing alarms since 1980.
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AA410
is it simple as its for an old lady to use and were can i get one thanks for your reply
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alarm man
security warehouse are good,lots of kit on there
SecurityWarehouse, For Professional Security Supplies
SecurityWarehouse, For Professional Security Supplies
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AA410
Thanks for that
Goody
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Would this fall under "Insurance Compliant Alarm" category? Because Insurance companies would turn down claims if the right type of Burglar Alarm wasn't in place. Thanks.
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accordfire
All the insurance company looks for is a system compliant with PD6662 - that's the standard to which the alarm should be installed. The control panel is compliant with the correct part of EN50131, so there won't be a problem there.
Insurance companies tend to get a little high and mighty where remote signalling is concerned, as do ACPO - they'll insist on an SSAIB or NSi approved company to do the monitoring (you won't get a URN for your ARC if you're not anyway), and some of them like to claim you need that approval for maintenance too - you don't, so long as you can prove maintenance is carried out in accordance with PD6662.
If it's domestic, it won't likely need to be anything above a Grade 2 - and either the Logic 6 I mentioned, or the Risco panel will meet that easily.
agreed. for a domestic audible system, any decent panel is OK. wher insurance companies rip you off is offering a discount of a few quid off your premium if you install an "approved" alarm system. what they don't tell you is that for the sake of a 5% reduction in your premium, you are going to have to pay the " approved" intallation company around £600 or more every year and if there are any call-outs to faults, it's never their fault. you will be charged exorbitant repair costs. ( that,s form the likes of ***) apologies to any approved installers on the forum
Goody
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Thanks guys, for clarifying this and fitting one of these alarm systems ( Yale Wire Free 4 Room Alarm Kit - Screwfix.com, Where the Trade Buys ) would comply, wouldn't it?
Thanks
Thanks
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accordfire
It won't comply with PD6662. It's a "DIY" system, which isn't made to the same standards.
Better off with "proper" kit.
Try looking round for a Scantronic i-ON kit if you need to go the wireless route. Dead easy, and seems great kit so far. I know City Electrical had some in "kit" form with a couple of wireless PIRs, etc.
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Spudnik
For the sake of the forum & its members, i have removed certain company names.
Im sure you guys understand.
Im sure you guys understand.
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accordfire
Totally agree with you mate - I hate them getting free advertising too!!!!
I'm also sure, that their rates are more like £1 a day fully comp and monitored.....unless it's a takeover. For domestics, anyway.
Goody
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StePugh
The Edmundson group electrical wholesalers are selling a Scantronic Ion16 kit for £200 which involves a ion 16 CIE, The keypad also with 3 pet tolerant PIR's with a door contact aswell. All you would need to buy then is either more detectors and a SAB a Internal Sounder and a battery and all you do is hardwire your keypad and SAB (save on high costs using wired bell box and keypad) and address all your detectors and devices and program the system. Which is fully compliant equipment to PD6662:2010 and EN50131
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tazz
Sorry guy why do you use expensive electrical outlets for your gear, your limited, radio alarms unless above garde 3 would keep well away from
And Bill were have you been....!
And Bill were have you been....!
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Knobhead
Probably died of old age!
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tazz
i hope not.....had some good interesting post with this guy...very knowlegable
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StePugh
Wireless equipment is handy if you have a grade 2 domestic that needs doing and lots of the flooring is laminated you would use wireless as you can't get the cabling in but hybrid systems give you the best of both worlds, at the end of the day you get what you pay for and spending that little bit extra makes all the difference
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Knobhead
A lot of people would like to shake him warmly by the throat.
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tazz
Oh dear...things that bad...do tell Tony
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accordfire
I'd kind of like to know that one too.....
What "lot of people would like to shake me warmly by the throat"? A why would help too....
As for where I've been....
1) Heart Attack number 2.
2) Loss of original business.
3) Start of Business no 2.
4) Time out through serious cardiac issues.
5) Starting again slowly.
Just for the record, in this time, my father has contracted cancer in two place, now spread to his lungs in addition, and has an estimated six months left to live. Additionally, my business partner (who was trying his hardest to keep us afloat) was diagnosed with cancer also, just before Christmas, and has just had stage 3 confirmed - likely terminal.
So, forgive me if it's a sense of humour failure I'm having, but I'd like to know who it is I'm supposed to have upset, and why I don't know anything about it? I'm happy to put right anything that anyone thinks I've done wrong.
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tazz
I think Bill this was just a passing bit of banter when I asked where you had been, i dont think it was aimed direct
If you need a hand out with anything you just let me know, drop me a PM anytime I am online day and night at different times... same goes for a lot of other people on here too, they are always about...
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tazz
There you go Bill, Plus you know im only local for cad, and labour help
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accordfire
Thanks guys - really appreciated....
I guess that's what having to deal with the CSA does for a guy's sense of humour....
From them, I'd believe it. Apparently a heart attack or lack of income are not acceptable reasons for missing Child Support payments. Among other gems, such as.... "it was only a heart attack you had"...... and "some fathers will make any excuse"..... "get a better job - what sort of father are you"?
All recorded, yet seemingly there are no supervisors or management capable of dealing with (male) complaints at the CSA down here.
I guess that's what having to deal with the CSA does for a guy's sense of humour....
From them, I'd believe it. Apparently a heart attack or lack of income are not acceptable reasons for missing Child Support payments. Among other gems, such as.... "it was only a heart attack you had"...... and "some fathers will make any excuse"..... "get a better job - what sort of father are you"?
All recorded, yet seemingly there are no supervisors or management capable of dealing with (male) complaints at the CSA down here.
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accordfire
Not much they are... they had every last bit of info I could provide showing I had nothing like the money they were after, no access to it, and no means of earning it.... took me to court while I was in hospital! Judge ruled in their favour as I wasn't "bothered" to turn up. Got it appealed as I had made the court aware through solicitor that I wasn't able to attend...and why.
Review hearing, they went through all the paperwork again, judge turned round and told the CSA that slavery was illegal in the UK.... CSA argued that they still were entitled to their judgment on the basis I'd earnt enough for that amount in 2008!!!!!! Judge says... this is 2012. Buy a new calendar!
End of the day, awarded in my favour, all written off, current payments to continue, review in 2014. CSA then raise a NEW claim against me..... for exactly the same amount as at first in arrears. Seriously, for two years, for two kids (now 7 and 4) they want £25k! It's off to court again, methinks.
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tazz
Im lucky, CSA was after my day, but still look after my daughter now 27 on my terms, when CSA finally came to town, with big ideas, my ex wished she hadn`t been so petty....out of spite, she re-regerested the birth without my name as the father...case closed
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accordfire
Well done you! That's one of the things that got me too - I got no credit for raising a step daughter out of my own pocket for nearly ten years - CSA weren't interested in chasing HER natural father.... and they weren't willing to take account of the stuff she did have since we split.... car, laptop, holiday for her and the kids, house, money, and more.
I sent the CSA my shirt at one point too, with a note telling them that between them and my ex, they'd had everything else.....
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tazz
you still covering Essex Kent area bill..?
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accordfire
Pretty much the SE mate, yes - broadly Kent, Surrey, Essex, Sussex, London. That sort of geography for now....
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accordfire
Yup. Ultra feminist retards usually, where the man can do no right, simply because he's male, and no woman can ever do any wrong, simply because she's female. I'm convinced those are the ONLY two criteria in force with them.....
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tazz
well if we get any security or cctv we`ll pass it you way as we dont touch this side....with a disclamer of caurse you dont nick our fire contracts....lol
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accordfire
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tazz
grant bulbs grow in the ther ground ....do you mean a lamp or a tube....lol
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