Which clamp meter for earth leakage AND continuity/voltage?

[HappyHippyDad]

Not exactly very good on the resolution stakes is it, and probably why it's only 45 quid!! lol!!
As the old saying goes, buy cheap, buy twice!! And after all the praise for the Dilog and TM unit you recieved too!! lol!!

I'm going for Dilog, cheers for the advice guys.

Does anyone else get excited about buying tools!!? :teeth_smile:

 

[telectrix]

course we do. it's like a woman buying shoes, only we don't visit 200 shops then go back to the 1st shop to buy what we should have done 3 hours before.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

course we do. it's like a woman buying shoes, only we don't visit 200 shops then go back to the 1st shop to buy what we should have done 3 hours before.

I dont know Telectrix, i've spent quite a bit of time faffing around looking at clamp meters now. Still not entirely sure I need the thing..... but its so pretty and shiny!

 

[oldtimer]

I dont know Telectrix, i've spent quite a bit of time faffing around looking at clamp meters now. Still not entirely sure I need the thing..... but its so pretty and shiny!

Well it good advise to go with the DLog if its getting good revues

 

[Guitarist]

I dont know Telectrix, i've spent quite a bit of time faffing around looking at clamp meters now. Still not entirely sure I need the thing..... but its so pretty and shiny!

It's one of those tools which you will hardly ever use, but when you do need it, it's priceless.
Bet you spend an hour when you get it testing how much current everything in your house draws....Don't forget to make up your appliance test lead before the Dilog arrives though.

 

[Engineer54]

It's one of those tools which you will hardly ever use, but when you do need it, it's priceless.
Bet you spend an hour when you get it testing how much current everything in your house draws....Don't forget to make up your appliance test lead before the Dilog arrives though.

I'd disagree with that statement, with the amount of RCD's being used these days for just about everything!!
Far better and easier to fault find with, especially when tracing leakage faults than with an MFT ramp test.
I think every electrician should have one in their testing kit!! ...So long as they know how to use them!! ..lol!!

 

[Guitarist]

I'd disagree with that statement, with the amount of RCD's being used these days for just about everything!!
Far better and easier to fault find with, especially when tracing leakage faults than with an MFT ramp test.
I think every electrician should have one in their testing kit!! ...So long as they know how to use them!! ..lol!!

Let me put it this way my friend... I've had to use mine 3 times in the last year, working solely on domestic installs. To me, that's hardly ever, compared to the other tools I use. I'm sure though that some people would use it more, depending on the jobs they do.

 

[T&Earth]

Thanks Old Timer

Looks like a good bit of kit, and also thanks to everyone contributions

Cheers T&E

Well it good advise to go with the DLog if its getting good revues

 

[Engineer54]

It's one of those tools which you will hardly ever use, but when you do need it, it's priceless.
Bet you spend an hour when you get it testing how much current everything in your house draws....Don't forget to make up your appliance test lead before the Dilog arrives though.

You summed it all up in just that one statement ''but when you do need it, it's priceless.''as to why every electrician should have a leakage amp clamp as part of their testing kit!!

But to be of any real use, it needs a consistant good resolution value, which 45 quid isn't going to give you!! When for around £100, you get everything you need!! It's then money well spent for any electrician whether you use it 3, 30, or 300 times a year!! lol!!

 

[Guitarist]

You summed it all up in just that one statement ''but when you do need it, it's priceless.''as to why every electrician should have a leakage amp clamp as part of their testing kit!!

But to be of any real use, it needs a consistant good resolution value, which 45 quid isn't going to give you!! When for around £100, you get everything you need!! It's then money well spent for any electrician whether you use it 3, 30, or 300 times a year!! lol!!

Agree.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

It's one of those tools which you will hardly ever use, but when you do need it, it's priceless.
Bet you spend an hour when you get it testing how much current everything in your house draws....Don't forget to make up your appliance test lead before the Dilog arrives though.

Thanks for the usual professional and sensible advice Guitarist.

When you say you only use it a few times but when you do its pricess, are you talking about the earth leakage capabilities, assuming you are as your MFT does all the other bits?

Also, going to stick my neck out a little and show my inexperience, although I haven't really hidden that fact!! But could you explain a bit about 'making up a test lead', I'm guessing its something to do with avoiding the return current through the neutral but I could just be digging a great big hole.

Yes, I will test everything in the house with great delight

 

[Richard Burns]

But could you explain a bit about 'making up a test lead',

I assume it is something like this photo from Pushrod, though I do not like the idea of LN clamping and would tend to just do the cpc. But that is my preference.

 

[Guitarist]

Thanks for the usual professional and sensible advice Guitarist.

When you say you only use it a few times but when you do its pricess, are you talking about the earth leakage capabilities, assuming you are as your MFT does all the other bits?

Also, going to stick my neck out a little and show my inexperience, although I haven't really hidden that fact!! But could you explain a bit about 'making up a test lead', I'm guessing its something to do with avoiding the return current through the neutral but I could just be digging a great big hole.

Yes, I will test everything in the house with great delight

Basically, it's as Richard has posted, but obviously you should sheathe any live conductors. With one of these leads you can clamp the cpc for measuring earth leakage, and the line conductor for simply measuring current drawn.
I don't use it for anything other than measuring current, as I prefer my MFT for everything else.

 

[bigbaddave]

take a look here Tel...i use one of these...and its OK:

AMECaL Calibration Services Laboratory

Thats what i have.. Not a bad bit of kit and i paid £40 new..

 

[bigbaddave]

I'd disagree with that statement, with the amount of RCD's being used these days for just about everything!!
Far better and easier to fault find with, especially when tracing leakage faults than with an MFT ramp test.
I think every electrician should have one in their testing kit!! ...So long as they know how to use them!! ..lol!!

I agree with this allthough used to rely on the ramp funmction, It wasnt until i was on a job testing a submain board which was fed from a RCD in seperate building 30m away (Not far i know but you get the picture) and having to rest the RCD every time it went was just a joke.. Now clamp it, get your reading and well thats it done..

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I assume it is something like this photo from Pushrod, though I do not like the idea of LN clamping and would tend to just do the cpc. But that is my preference.
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Thats great Richard. Thankyou.

 

[Guitarist]

Best thing to clamp is a table lamp with an energy saving lamp fitted. Makes you realise just how little power they consume

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Best thing to clamp is a table lamp with an energy saving lamp fitted. Makes you realise just how little power they consume

I love it! Microwave uses 5.7A, kettle 9.8A, oven 10A on grill but only 8A on main oven!, Lighting circuit with ALL lights on 2.7A, energy saving lamp - cant remember - but incredibly low!

I can keep going if anyone wants? :wink_smile:

 

[Guitarist]

I love it! Microwave uses 5.7A, kettle 9.8A, oven 10A on grill but only 8A on main oven!, Lighting circuit with ALL lights on 2.7A, energy saving lamp - cant remember - but incredibly low!

I can keep going if anyone wants? :wink_smile:

:vanish:

The novelty will wear off mate. Have you tested the earth leakage on your installation yet? :vanish:

 

[Ducksy]

Hey sorry my knowage of clamp meters is limited but do you guys have two clamp meters one for earth leakage (range 10 μA to 60a) and one for higher load readings (range 0.1ma to 400a) which I'm guessing you would need for Working out say max demand on EICR's.

I mean this one only reads up to a maximum of 60a....... I guess you could individually test each circuit and add them together to work out max demand.

And also I can see why a earth leakage clamp meter is useful for fault finding but wouldn't IR testing be just as effective for finding faults...apart from working out issues like if there are too many computers on one circuit causing nuisance tripping.

As I only do single phase domestic work (no EICR) would you recommended me getting one.

Any advise would be greatly appreciated.