If you were wiring 8 gangs of 2 way light switches. Would you wire 8 independent circuits, so 8 no. 3 core between switches. Or would you run a live, and loop all the L1's together, then just run 8 no. 2 core between switches ?
Sorry to disagree, but getting an electrician in doesn't ensure it's done properly
Fair point, I should have said get a reputable electrician in.
I would love to see a pic of the 8 gang after it's been labelled up because I'm tying to picture it in my mind as to how aesthetically pleasing it's going to look in a domestic environment.Not when it's all labelled
Do you mean electrician or a bright spark ?
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Unless hidden under the stairs, I can't see any nice way to label this in a domestic environment. It's likely that whoever wants a bank of 8 switches will memorise each one, while everyone else in the hose will try them all and leave lights on everywhere.
That looks good, I spoke with Hager to see if they did custom labels, but unfortunately not. They recommended some key cutters do engraving. I'm gonna try that. Where did you get your engraver, how much did it cost, can you do switches instead ?
When I was an apprentice, I had to engrave a lot of white plates for EM test switches etc
Can’t even remember how it was done, but it would be described as “manual”
A clamp, a stencil and a steady hand.
Years later when I was at uni, I took a job at an electricians in their stores. They had a computer controlled version of the same machine.
Can’t even remember how it was done, but it would be described as “manual”
A clamp, a stencil and a steady hand.
Years later when I was at uni, I took a job at an electricians in their stores. They had a computer controlled version of the same machine.
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Might be best to stick with something better suited to my abilities.
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The engraving machine is just a cheapsih 3040 type Chinese CNC mill similar to this one. The largest cost is the licences for the CAD software and the MACH software to run the machine.
I've never tried to engrave the switch rockers themselves I might give it a go. Most manufacturers screen print the markings for their switches. Years ago we had Crabtree mark a load of switches for use in a housing development. I've no idea what the cost or minimum order was though.
I've never tried to engrave the switch rockers themselves I might give it a go. Most manufacturers screen print the markings for their switches. Years ago we had Crabtree mark a load of switches for use in a housing development. I've no idea what the cost or minimum order was though.
My advice is just buy a single one instead of a box as it maybe confusing.
One step at a time.
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That’s banging, I’ve just seen Timpsons do engraving. I’m gonna see what they can do.
Seen plenty mistakes when other apprentices tried engraving… Tumble dryer/drier or just having “FF” for fridge freezer.
The engraved letters on white plastic was rubbed over with coloured wax…. (A professional crayon) and the coloured bit stayed inside the cut away part.
We also made plastic signs that were made up of plates of laminated coloured plastic. So the engraved part would cut through the top layer revealing whatever the second layer colour was.
The engraved letters on white plastic was rubbed over with coloured wax…. (A professional crayon) and the coloured bit stayed inside the cut away part.
We also made plastic signs that were made up of plates of laminated coloured plastic. So the engraved part would cut through the top layer revealing whatever the second layer colour was.
Traffolyte.
The most common mistake with manual engraving is forgetting to lift the stylus when moving to the next letter!
I have in the past bought Powergrid switches that where already engraved, seems though its only white goods, don't remember seeing any for lights: 20 Amp DP PowerGrid Switch - White - Cooker Hood | Varilight (G201DW.CH) - https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/VLG201DWCH.html
Seems the can offer Bespoke Engraving: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/DataSheets/Varilight/VLG201DCE_Datasheet.pdf
Seems the can offer Bespoke Engraving: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/DataSheets/Varilight/VLG201DCE_Datasheet.pdf
If you have no luck your end I'll do it.
Thats the weirdest spelling of Tumble Dryer ive ever seen.....
I know what you mean though, Westy. Not Crayola
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That’s banging, I’ve just seen Timpsons do engraving. I’m gonna see what they can do.
Don't forget my commission
Is that Mach3 / 4 by Artsoft?
What CAD software do you use?
Mach 3. I use Vectric Cut 2D Desktop for making up signs and plates as it will engrave simple text to traffolyte and cut out fixing holes and panel button holes and the plate itself. And Stickfont V2.6 for engraving text on switches and things as it is substantially more flexible for text. Was making these ready for this week splitting offices to 3 separate suppliers meters.
Very professional, any client would be very impressed with that, the next electrician has a lot to live up too.
Makes my masking tape and sharpie pen look very inadequate
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For the latter, it must be nice being able to print your own.
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Yes, saves having to draw up designs with measurements etc., send the designs away and then wait for them to be made and delivered. Don't have to worry about minimum order charges and such either.
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It even make my Brother PT550 look a bit sad, but I am happy with it, better than a Sharpie by a long way, reminds me must make a sticker to go over the Wylex Logo. 
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Cricked my neck now.It even make my Brother PT550 look a bit sad, but I am happy with it, better than a Sharpie by a long way, reminds me must make a sticker to go over the Wylex Logo.
Ps what's a devise ?
Instalation ?
Doesn't instil much confidence have you printed a lot of those labels ?
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Something that's intriguing meIt even make my Brother PT550 look a bit sad, but I am happy with it, better than a Sharpie by a long way, reminds me must make a sticker to go over the Wylex Logo.
Kitchen socket sink side 32 amp
Kitchen socket hob side 32 amp
3 ring finals ?
4mm radials ?
pt550 doesn't like printing "sockets"
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If you had one of those in the 90s you would be the bees knees
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So glad you follow my post so closely, makes it all worthwhile. 
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