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Who'd be interested in watching (and participating in) a documentary about the challenges facing the average domestic and small commercial sparkie?

I left a career in the City about 10/ 11 years ago to retrain as an electrician as I thought I could help change the perception of your local sparkie and I also thought I might have a slight edge over my direct competition given my commercial and educational background. I learned very quickly how difficult a career as an electrician is and immersed myself into 12-15 hour days 7 days a week to work, learn, research and strategise to become a better electrician and businessman. Despite a lot of effort I feel the industry has changed massively over that period and not for the better. We've all put in more effort, more hours, more training and yet profits are significantly down not to mention quality of working and personal life. I'm at a point now where if a better career option presented itself I'd leave. Broadcasting has been an area that I have also been involved in and I'd like to combine my knowledge of both to create a documentary about the struggles highly skilled tradesmen (particularly electricians and possibly plumbers) have and are facing with the introduction of the competent persons scheme, European labour, qualified electrician short courses etc. The government need to make massive changes to help the industry and I also feel that customers need educating about the levels required to be properly competent and other matters that they should consider before instructing work in their properties.

I know there is a lot of activity regarding blacklisting and union issues for the bigger sites, but who's beating the drum for the 'one-man-band' and small team companies? I haven't seen any programmes highlighting these wide ranging issues.

If there's mileage in this I'll give it some serious thought and pitch the idea to some networks.

Any immediate thoughts?
 
Some friendly advice: You'll be perceived as part of the problem, not part of the solution.
 
Some friendly advice: You'll be perceived as part of the problem, not part of the solution.

That's interesting...why do you say that? I'm guessing you're referring to my cross training, but 10 years is a decent amount of time in 1 job. I would hope it would help raise awareness.
 
There is an undeniable fact
The Domestic electrical industry is of little interest to those in power,those who are not part of the industry, and maybe the vast majority of the General public

We as electricians tend to over hype our trades importance
It was once the top of the tree,but that tree has been felled long times past

Even commercial and industrial installation has an enormous hill to climb if ever the trade was to be seen to be as important as we want to believe

Trade practices are seen as a Turkey that can be carved up so that semi skilled labourers can take away our natural work remit.cue the containment installer proposals

Your documentary could become a best seller amongst sparks,but be of no interest whatsoever to the vast majority of folk
 
There is an undeniable fact
The Domestic electrical industry is of little interest to those in power,those who are not part of the industry, and maybe the vast majority of the General public

We as electricians tend to over hype our trades importance
It was once the top of the tree,but that tree has been felled long times past

Even commercial and industrial installation has an enormous hill to climb if ever the trade was to be seen to be as important as we want to believe

Trade practices are seen as a Turkey that can be carved up so that semi skilled labourers can take away our natural work remit.cue the containment installer proposals

Your documentary could become a best seller amongst sparks,but be of no interest whatsoever to the vast majority of folk

How can we over hype the single most important thing in peoples' lives? I agree that everyone else doesn't give a damn about electrical work, just so long as the lights switch on and the boiler fires up, but it is still a bloody hard job with many skills involved and a lot of responsibility.
 
There is an undeniable fact
The Domestic electrical industry is of little interest to those in power,those who are not part of the industry, and maybe the vast majority of the General public

We as electricians tend to over hype our trades importance
It was once the top of the tree,but that tree has been felled long times past

Even commercial and industrial installation has an enormous hill to climb if ever the trade was to be seen to be as important as we want to believe

Trade practices are seen as a Turkey that can be carved up so that semi skilled labourers can take away our natural work remit.cue the containment installer proposals

Your documentary could become a best seller amongst sparks,but be of no interest whatsoever to the vast majority of folk

I agree with a few of your points here, but electrics are everywhere and people are scared of them. And that's because they don't understand them. But they don't necessarily think that they are complicated because playing around with them is very accessible. I actually missed the wider point in my first post and that is about quality; diminishing levels of quality for what we fit, which potentially has adverse effects on safety, makes installations of a lower quality, increasing the need for maintenance and then the loss of confidence in tradespeople. Notwithstanding the good guys that are so fed up they leave the trade.

I don't think people in general or those in power care too much, but they should and the correct articulation of the problem might help.
 
Who'd be interested in watching (and participating in) a documentary about the challenges facing the average domestic and small commercial sparkie?

I left a career in the City about 10/ 11 years ago to retrain as an electrician as I thought I could help change the perception of your local sparkie and I also thought I might have a slight edge over my direct competition given my commercial and educational background. I learned very quickly how difficult a career as an electrician is and immersed myself into 12-15 hour days 7 days a week to work, learn, research and strategise to become a better electrician and businessman. Despite a lot of effort I feel the industry has changed massively over that period and not for the better. We've all put in more effort, more hours, more training and yet profits are significantly down not to mention quality of working and personal life. I'm at a point now where if a better career option presented itself I'd leave. Broadcasting has been an area that I have also been involved in and I'd like to combine my knowledge of both to create a documentary about the struggles highly skilled tradesmen (particularly electricians and possibly plumbers) have and are facing with the introduction of the competent persons scheme, European labour, qualified electrician short courses etc. The government need to make massive changes to help the industry and I also feel that customers need educating about the levels required to be properly competent and other matters that they should consider before instructing work in their properties.

I know there is a lot of activity regarding blacklisting and union issues for the bigger sites, but who's beating the drum for the 'one-man-band' and small team companies? I haven't seen any programmes highlighting these wide ranging issues.

If there's mileage in this I'll give it some serious thought and pitch the idea to some networks.

Any immediate thoughts?

I think that could be a very interesting programme, I'd be interested in hearing more about it.
 
Your documentary could become a best seller amongst sparks,but be of no interest whatsoever to the vast majority of folk

I have to agree with the above. I love watching things about engineering but how are you going to get the average person to be interested in it, unless you do as they do in most of the programs and hype everything up so much it then becomes just tacky.
 
dont think ive ever seen a programme about electrical work,would love to thought.its probs cos non electrical people just arnt interested in it.
 
the problem here is as soon as some jumped up little producer or precious director....or any other `luvvy` type got their mits on this.... it would be ruined before it even got of the ground what with all the melodramatic flouncing around, the fake controversy and `poor old me` syndrome that we are subjected to these days everytime we watch one of these fly on the wall documentarys....


oh, and i`m not into any of that sentimental old guff that you get either....
 
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Like the idea, but dont know how many people you would reach. A Government backed high profile media campaign is definitely what's needed though. And a bloody change from the phrase 'Part P' competent/compliant/etc., to something readily identifiable as being ELECTRICAL.
 
Like the idea, but dont know how many people you would reach. A Government backed high profile media campaign is definitely what's needed though. And a bloody change from the phrase 'Part P' competent/compliant/etc., to something readily identifiable as being ELECTRICAL.
wrong!!

its `part P qualified` now wouldnt you know
 
Now.... I have always wondered what would happen if we all went on strike for a month. THAT would make for an interesting docu/drama.

The minute some mission critical system fell over, we'd be like gods again.
 
Who'd be interested in watching (and participating in) a documentary about the challenges facing the average domestic and small commercial sparkie?

I left a career in the City about 10/ 11 years ago to retrain as an electrician as I thought I could help change the perception of your local sparkie and I also thought I might have a slight edge over my direct competition given my commercial and educational background. I learned very quickly how difficult a career as an electrician is and immersed myself into 12-15 hour days 7 days a week to work, learn, research and strategise to become a better electrician and businessman. Despite a lot of effort I feel the industry has changed massively over that period and not for the better. We've all put in more effort, more hours, more training and yet profits are significantly down not to mention quality of working and personal life. I'm at a point now where if a better career option presented itself I'd leave. Broadcasting has been an area that I have also been involved in and I'd like to combine my knowledge of both to create a documentary about the struggles highly skilled tradesmen (particularly electricians and possibly plumbers) have and are facing with the introduction of the competent persons scheme, European labour, qualified electrician short courses etc. The government need to make massive changes to help the industry and I also feel that customers need educating about the levels required to be properly competent and other matters that they should consider before instructing work in their properties.

I know there is a lot of activity regarding blacklisting and union issues for the bigger sites, but who's beating the drum for the 'one-man-band' and small team companies? I haven't seen any programmes highlighting these wide ranging issues.

If there's mileage in this I'll give it some serious thought and pitch the idea to some networks.

Any immediate thoughts?

Lmao, Tarzan swings through the jungle whilst miss piggy tries to bed Kermit
 
The minute some mission critical system fell over, we'd be like gods again.

Of course they would keep the national grid and sub stations running but soon as Mr and Mrs Home owner cant watch TV or plug in their laptop due to a faulty RCD, we would become hero's just like on the British Gas advert. Dropping down from a zip line to flick on a switch lol.
 
All right, then.... if, in our hypothetical strike, ALL electricians, of all flavours except for those in generation and the super grid, downed tools - what do we reckon would be the first significant thing to fail? Railways??
 
I'd watch it, I can't see it ever happening though. Would you watch a programme about the de-skilling of the hairdressing industry? No, you probably wouldn't, because like me you don't give a s**t, just like they won't give a s**t about us!............Just call me the eternal optimist!
 
I'd watch it, I can't see it ever happening though. Would you watch a programme about the de-skilling of the hairdressing industry? No, you probably wouldn't, because like me you don't give a s**t, just like they won't give a s**t about us!............Just call me the eternal optimist!

Damn are hair dressers suffering too...there could be a mini series to this;)

Thanks for all the comments. I would certainly need some careful thought so to make it appealing to a wider audience. if you consider the numbers that are pulled by grand designs, diy sos etc i think there is a potential audience if carefully marketed to them. maybe i need to focus on one particular element rather than a great many. I guess the doc that we would all appreciate would be something that a network doesnt pick up, but gets used to help educate as a lobbying tool to the politicians and possibly the approval bodies.

Hmmmm...
 

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