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[Darkwood]

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.



I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. mg_smile:

 

[ipf]

Or throw the connector away and put a Wago and box on the fitting, a bit like this perhaps, and why anyone would use a non fire rated fitting is beyond me, no matter what the regs say.
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First look, that favoured a badly wired, single way, 3 phase fuse box , fixed to the wall.

 

[Mike Johnson]

First look, that favoured a badly wired, single way, 3 phase fuse box , fixed to the wall.

It says Wago 294 on it ?

 

[Aaron b]

Or throw the connector away and put a Wago and box on the fitting, a bit like this perhaps, and why anyone would use a non fire rated fitting is beyond me, no matter what the regs say.
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I thought of using the click flow connectors but I didn't want to take responsibility for the product when there was a better solution available and if besides I didn't have enough in the van.

 

[freddo]

I thought of using the click flow connectors but I didn't want to take responsibility for the product when there was a better solution available and if besides I didn't have enough in the van.

I've now switched to Quickwire T connectors, they are so much better IMO.

 

[Aaron b]

I've now switched to Quickwire T connectors, they are so much better IMO.

I am going to try them. Rexel don't list them but I will see if they can get some in or order them online.

What do you like better about them? I assume they are a bit smaller. I usually use the click ones for bathroom mirrors but they are fairly bulky for the space available.

I've been using a few of the switch and load connectors too recently.

 

[nicebutdim]

I've now switched to Quickwire T connectors, they are so much better IMO.

The one downside being socket only suitable for T&E. I recently used some of the Ricoman downlights they supply with pre-fitted T-Connectors and it's a great system for domestic installations.

 

[freddo]

I am going to try them. Rexel don't list them but I will see if they can get some in or order them online.

What do you like better about them? I assume they are a bit smaller. I usually use the click ones for bathroom mirrors but they are fairly bulky for the space available.

I've been using a few of the switch and load connectors too recently.

Just so much faster to fit better cord grips much more compact, plug and unplug more easily. I they fit through a 30mm hole too.

 

[pirate]

The people at Quickwire are very friendly. Ask them for a couple of samples. I haven't used the T connectors but the switch and load and splitters are great.
I'm going to try their downlights next time I have a suitable job for them:

Quickwire-Ricoman Fire Rated Downlight

Quickwire now provide a market leading fire rated downlight that comes factory fitted with a Quickwire plug & socket.

www.quickwire.co.uk

 

[freddo]

The one downside being socket only suitable for T&E. I recently used some of the Ricoman downlights they supply with pre-fitted T-Connectors and it's a great system for domestic installations.

I'd seen the quickwire system in the wholesalers for ages but never thought to try it. The joint boxes are so fast to fit. No test points though.

 

[pirate]

Thanks, @nicebutdim
Crossed messages, but good to learn the Ricoman downlights are good.

 

[nicebutdim]

The people at Quickwire are very friendly. Ask them for a couple of samples. I haven't used the T connectors but the switch and load and splitters are great.
I'm going to try their downlights next time I have a suitable job for them:

Quickwire-Ricoman Fire Rated Downlight

Quickwire now provide a market leading fire rated downlight that comes factory fitted with a Quickwire plug & socket.

www.quickwire.co.uk

Colour temp selection switch is located under the bexel, which is great, but I found it to be a little fiddly on some of them - it did work on them all after attempting to flick it back and forth for a while.

 

[nicebutdim]

I'd seen the quickwire system in the wholesalers for ages but never thought to try it. The joint boxes are so fast to fit. No test points though.

Never used the splitter, but fitted a few of their 'switch & load'. Overall their products are excellent and they seem to be keen on developing new products. If it wasn't for my miserly nature, I'd use them much more often.

 

[freddo]

Never used the splitter, but fitted a few of their 'switch & load'. Overall their products are excellent and they seem to be keen on developing new products. If it wasn't for my miserly nature, I'd use them much more often.

The first time I fitted one I couldn't believe how fast it was, just seconds to connect 4 cables in a 4 wire lighting junction box. Maintenance free rated too.

 

[pirate]

I know Quickwire are relative newcomers, and there are quite a few other easy-style connectors out there, but I do think Quickwire will be the new "Wago" for lighting. I also know that many think the cost is quite high, but the time-savings are considerable.
I love new technology like this. Same as I embraced Quinetic many years ago, when the time savings and lack of raggling(chasing) plastering and painting made it a new solution for many cases.
Wireless smoke alarms with radio modules to interlink, and a 10 year life shows the same type of savings...no wiring, chasing, redecoration...might seem expensive, but compared with the alternative, money well spent.
No race to the bottom, guys and girls...spec the good, clever modern stuff...do the job fast and well, no call-backs...and happy clients.
Just my random ramblings...but remember when we had no LED head-torches or cordless drills etc? Now we wouldn't work without them.
The cheapskate boys will always get work, but the quality electricians will always get quality work, and that is what matters in the long term.

 

[Aaron b]

I'd seen the quickwire system in the wholesalers for ages but never thought to try it. The joint boxes are so fast to fit. No test points though.

I'm not sure about the t connectors but I thought that too about the switch and load. If you look there's little holes in the sides I believe you can get a probe in there. I'll try it later but would be pretty sure thats what it's for.

 

[UNG]

I know Quickwire are relative newcomers, and there are quite a few other easy-style connectors out there, but I do think Quickwire will be the new "Wago" for lighting. I also know that many think the cost is quite high, but the time-savings are considerable.

Quickwire have been around for 5 - 6 years now and while they offer a solution for connecting T&E IMO they don't yet have a total connectivity solution for lighting whether they will in the future remains to be seen

 

[pc1966]

That 'Quickwire T-Connector Plug & Socket' combination looks brilliant!

Great idea to be able to wire up all of the light supplies and then attached the lights after 500V IR testing is done, or to unplug and replace a light at stupid height with minimal fuss.

 

[Cagethethird]

Installing maintenance free connections in an existing ceiling is not the easiest thing to do and I bet you have seen and done worse.

Thats not a maintenance free connection. The Wago box light if not an MF rated enclosure

 

[littlespark]

Thats not a maintenance free connection. The Wago box light if not an MF rated enclosure

TBF, though… WAGOBOX lites are normally used fitting downlights…
Pop the fitting out the ceiling, box comes with it.
Accessible, so no need for MF.

 

[Mike Johnson]

They may not be rated maintenance free, but they meet :BS 5733 which defines a maintenance free accessory as: “An accessory which does not require further inspection, testing or maintenance after installation in a circuit, and which incorporates screwless terminals and cable clamps to secure any associated cables"

 

[nicebutdim]

I know Quickwire are relative newcomers, and there are quite a few other easy-style connectors out there, but I do think Quickwire will be the new "Wago" for lighting. I also know that many think the cost is quite high, but the time-savings are considerable.
I love new technology like this. Same as I embraced Quinetic many years ago, when the time savings and lack of raggling(chasing) plastering and painting made it a new solution for many cases.
Wireless smoke alarms with radio modules to interlink, and a 10 year life shows the same type of savings...no wiring, chasing, redecoration...might seem expensive, but compared with the alternative, money well spent.
No race to the bottom, guys and girls...spec the good, clever modern stuff...do the job fast and well, no call-backs...and happy clients.
Just my random ramblings...but remember when we had no LED head-torches or cordless drills etc? Now we wouldn't work without them.
The cheapskate boys will always get work, but the quality electricians will always get quality work, and that is what matters in the long term.

I'd place quickwire in a different category to wireless interlinks. While both offer time saving solutions, at a price, there's no prospect of wireless failure with their connectors.

Wireless switching and smoke detector interconnection is something I'd only consider when adding to an existing installation, where it saves considerable time and upheaval, and there's no question that this may often be the better option for customers. For new installations I'm firmly of the opinion that everthing should be hardwired.

I'm not sure about the t connectors but I thought that too about the switch and load. If you look there's little holes in the sides I believe you can get a probe in there. I'll try it later but would be pretty sure thats what it's for.

That thought struck me last night, but I didn't have one to hand. Looking at images online I could only see holes on either side, so wonder if that's what they really are and, if so, where CPC can be accessed.

Edit: seems I should have looked elsewhere as this was answered in Quickwire's FAQ section, back in 2017. All of their junctions have test points.

Are there any test points for a meter?

Yes, all our junction boxes now come with test holes.

www.quickwire.co.uk

 

[Aaron b]

I'd place quickwire in a different category to wireless interlinks. While both offer time saving solutions, at a price, there's no prospect of wireless failure with their connectors.

Wireless switching and smoke detector interconnection is something I'd only consider when adding to an existing installation, where it saves considerable time and upheaval, and there's no question that this may often be the better option for customers. For new installations I'm firmly of the opinion that everthing should be hardwired.



That thought struck me last night, but I didn't have one to hand. Looking at images online I could only see holes on either side, so wonder if that's what they really are and, if so, where CPC can be accessed.

Edit: seems I should have looked elsewhere as this was answered in Quickwire's FAQ section, back in 2017. All of their junctions have test points.

Are there any test points for a meter?

Yes, all our junction boxes now come with test holes.

www.quickwire.co.uk

Here's a picture if it helps

 

[mainline]

Is that one you installed? It looks rough, copper exposed on the L & N, and all looks a bit tight for space.

I don't like those white connectors, always remind me of Chinese carp.

 

[Raptor0014]

I guess they just couldn’t be arse here and made a token effort with a single conduit saddle.

 

[nicebutdim]

I guess they just couldn’t be arse here and made a token effort with a single conduit saddle.

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Reminds me of a short video from @dseselectric of a car charger install.

I'd hoped to post in reply, but the bugger seems to have taken it down.

Edit: it's still there - check out this masterpiece..

 

[SparkyChick]

Reminds me of a short video from @dseselectric of a car charger install.

I'd hoped to post in reply, but the bugger seems to have taken it down.

Edit: it's still there - check out this masterpiece..

Not being funny, but who in their right mind would agree to pay for that???

Truly shocking!

 

[Raptor0014]

Reminds me of a short video from @dseselectric of a car charger install.

I'd hoped to post in reply, but the bugger seems to have taken it down.

Edit: it's still there - check out this masterpiece..

Yeah I saw that. Made me chuckle as I’ve seen a few ---- EV charge point installs that I get asked to rectify.

 

[nicebutdim]

Not being funny, but who in their right mind would agree to pay for that???

Truly shocking!

I think it's fair to say most people would hit the roof if presented with that.

 

[Raptor0014]

Not being funny, but who in their right mind would agree to pay for that???

Truly shocking!

I’ve had to sort a few, including one where they had TT’d it and connected it back to the PME!

I wouldn’t mind but the charge point had built in PFP.

 

[swaRRR]

I guess they just couldn’t be arse here and made a token effort with a single conduit saddle.

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That's not even rough it's just pure laziness. Would take literally 5 minutes to put another half dozen in.