Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

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Darkwood

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

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I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago. :omg_smile:

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It's all original wiring under capping, the other wall lights were the same but with different angles & bends. It actually would have been harder work to wire like this compared to going straight down the wall!
 
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Found during pat testing today, plug was incredibly hot. Connected to extension lead with 4KW worth of heaters on the other end. If the plug was made of that soft plastic it would have been destroyed by the heat.
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SparkyChick said:
What with the damage and discolouration of the earth pin @freddo ? Looks like some tiny splatters of metal in the casing, has it been arcing for some reason?
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It's from a short circuit, you can see the chain of events by seeing the overheated cable which has chared the lid of the plug, it's this charring that created a carbon conductive track between the live fuse holder and earth pin hence you see the damage to the earth... (note the black carbon track on the lid) my dearWatson. ;)
 
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The RCD wasn't tripping, but the earth pin was really hot, too hot to touch. I think the mark is actually green Hammerite paint, which was all over the place (I got covered in it!). The plug isn't the original one, and must have been replaced recently.
 
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If the earth pin was hot then I hope you have checked and tested everything associated with it, it sound like it is wired incorrectly or the socket it was plugged into was, I would also do a test of the circuit and rcd as a matter of priority, the earth pin shows signs of arcing or short circuit damage and it does mirror the black stain on the plug top, so whatever it is I would suggest it was conductive.
 
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I do believe there is a wire stuffed between the fuse and the clip at the terminal end, and unless I'm much mistaken, the fuse cap has come off. Is it possible they've 'upgraded' the fuse and in doing so had a little bit of stray wire which has touched the earth pin???

I love these pictures :)
 
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The damage to the earth pin shows sustained arcing, you can see all the pitting and bobbling like someone has had a mini welder on it, this would suggest it was tracking and not a one off short, hence I suggested that the circuit is checked out because this should have tripped any working rcd.
 
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Ok as it explains the discolouration then it does not explain the damage to the earth pin, although as you say it's second hand plug this could be from before it was used on this item.... if indeed it is a 'metallic' paint as you suggest, it is possible the paint itself acts as a conductor, these metal paints do contain metal diffused into the paint itself, again it won't show the timeline here and could be a past issue..... what is worrying is the earth pin been hot, if all pins were hot then its probably heat conduction if it only effected 1 or 2 pins then you have to look deeper into the causes.
 
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There is no damage to the earth pin, it's paint. The socket (along with several others) is booked for replacement. This socket was previously replaced in February this year after an EICR. The pin was hot through heat conduction, the entire plug body was scorching, too hot to touch. I could feel the heat on the outside of the weatherproofing cover.
 
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telectrix said:
show us the rest, 15 more jagged holes?
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Haha no! Bit of patience and perhaps luck!

Smoke alarm circuit. Tested between each point to locate damaged leg. Narrowed it down to between downstairs bedroom & hall. Noticed when testing that cable had been brought through the ceiling right beside a joist (nothing special there) but on closer inspection could see it actually disappeared between joist and plasterboard. So did a bit of excavating and uncovered what's pictured!

OK maybe a fair bit of luck!
 
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Dave OCD said:
So were you able to take the screw out, cut off the damaged bit of cable then reconnect to a smoke alarm covering the hole at the same time ?
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Removed screw, cut off damaged section, fed other leg through joist and terminated. Wasn't worried about size of hole as was a new build and painter yet to finish but fortunately smoke detector covered it (just!).
 
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Called out last night, a toilet upstairs had leaked and come through some downlights. Removed the downlights to help them dry out and safely isolated the circuit. These downlights were only fitting last year and were not Fire rated, someone had also set up a nice beam for them to burn on and left all the splints of wood next to it in the ceiling to get a fire going. GU10 lamp, red hot.

Also no connections to the earths, all just cut off.

Done by a local spark.

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That's not clever, he obviously didn't want to recalculate to get the down lights looking even.
He obviously didn't hole test with a pointy screwdriver either.
'Bad electrician - in you basket'
 
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