domestic works, to P on not to P

john.irvine · May 18, 2009

flukey said:
i would suggest you have a chat with your local council
it doesnt matter how qualified you are notifiable work is notifiable work whoever does it.
i too am fully qualified 2391, 17th blah blah but still have to pay the £425 each year to niceic to operate within the law

The last time I did domestic work was last year, so I did contact my buildings dept and asked, besides a copy of my qualifications and my inspection and rest results of the work carried out is there any thing else you need such a payment.

The answer was NO, there’s is no payment required, as we do not need to check anything, your qualifications are enough to show you are a competent person to carry out the work, your information goes on file and held here at the Building Dept.

I found out about this from the tutor on the 17th edition course.
He ran a business, which included domestic work and he did not have part P.
He said just get to know some one at your buildings dept, let them know of the work your doing then send them your inspection and test results, if your qualified you don’t realy need Part P.
And he was right.

Spudnik · May 18, 2009

sparks1234 said:
Jason....chicken LOL

Dont make me reach for the ban button....

sparks1234 · May 18, 2009

Mac said:
I didn't say that.The Part P was introduced by the Govt in 2005,just another moneyspinner and another stealth tax to tax us all again

Not you Mac, it was said earlier today by John Irvine I think his name was

Mac · May 18, 2009

sparks1234 said:
Not you Mac, it was said earlier today by John Irvine I think his name was

Sorry mate

Spudnik · May 18, 2009

Oh i cant resist.

Part P had been in the pipeline a long time before it was introduced.

It was the MP's daughters death that pushed it through without much thought, hence the state its in.

Now thats my input on the subject and im saying no more.

Now leave me alone.

sparks1234 · May 18, 2009

Jason.S said:
Oh i cant resist.

Part P had been in the pipeline a long time before it was introduced.

It was the MP's daughters death that pushed it through without much thought, hence the state its in.

Now thats my input on the subject and im saying no more.

Now leave me alone.

Bet you can't resist another comment a bit later Jason

I'm off to the off electrics forum. enough electrical arguments for today

Jono Pashley · May 19, 2009

At the end of the day Building Controls word is final. So if they say its alright and you can get that in writing the scams can goto hell. Scams back you up? yea right. If your doing the job right and to standards, your PI and PLI are going to cover you.

sparks1234 · May 19, 2009

Jono Pashley said:
At the end of the day Building Controls word is final. So if they say its alright and you can get that in writing the scams can goto hell. Scams back you up? yea right. If your doing the job right and to standards, your PI and PLI are going to cover you.

can you get it in writing?

Had8Lives · May 19, 2009

If local building control will accept copies of quals and test sheets as compliance with Part P then it will come back and bite them on the ar*e, as it's no different to a cowboy copying someones quals and test sheets. I appreciate there are no cowboys here.

Jono Pashley · May 19, 2009

Had8Lives said:
If local building control will accept copies of quals and test sheets as compliance with Part P then it will come back and bite them on the ar*e, as it's no different to a cowboy copying someones quals and test sheets. I appreciate there are no cowboys here.

No you would have to show them the actual certificates. So its quite a world away from someone stealing your credentials, Most LABC seem quite happy to accept your test results if your sufficiently qualified, Im sure if requested written proof could be obtained. Whether you like it or not, If that LABC accepts it there very few people who can say otherwise.

Spudnik · May 19, 2009

Will they issue you with a letter stating that they accept just qualifications (if sufficient) and allow you to notify direct?

acat · May 19, 2009

Indeed if thats what they say but like we have all said are they willing to confirm that in writing so you have proof. If you are unfortunate enough for any reason to be prosecuted that letter could be a get out of jail free card.

Chris

Spudnik · May 19, 2009

Indeed.

There have been a few successful cases of 'failure to notify' prosecutions, and im not sure "they said it was alright" would help much.

chrissyh · May 19, 2009

Jason.S said:
Indeed.

There have been a few successful cases of 'failure to notify' prosecutions, and im not sure "they said it was alright" would help much.

But i read it as he does notify and they are comfortable with his ability/qualifications to carry out the said works in a competent manner without the need for 3rd party inspection. So your analogy is irrellevant.
If my interpretation is correct, I would of thought it was an unusal and refreshing case of common sense breaking out in a local council!

acat · May 19, 2009

The requirement is until you belong to a body you must inform the LABC. If you dont and as Jason said you get prosecuted for failing to notify do you really expect the person who told you your qualifications are enough to stand up in court and say its my fault Im the plonker who told him or do you think he will deny all knowledge and let you carry the can.

A phone call can be denied letter headed paper cannot and as they are the legal body that would prosecute a letter would stop any prosecution dead in its tracks.

I know which one I would prefer.

Chris