EV chargers turned off at peak times

[Loki]

Hi,

Has anyone heard about this?

E-car charging points 'will turn off NINE HOURS a day by default'

From May, every new charger will automatically not function at 'peak times' to ease the pressure on the national grid.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[DPG]

Hi,

Has anyone heard about this?

E-car charging points 'will turn off NINE HOURS a day by default'

From May, every new charger will automatically not function at 'peak times' to ease the pressure on the national grid.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Doesn't surprise me. Need something in place to ensure the network can cope with the large number of EVs which will be sold and need charging. And peak times will be a big problem.

 

[Mikegh]

Definitely makes sense to keep it off-peak

 

[UNG]

Definitely makes sense to keep it off-peak

But as we move to more electric reliant society what will be classed as off peak

 

[Mikegh]

I guess if it changes the suppliers will have the flexibility to make adjustments with the smart meters

Its definitely news to me this idea of fixing the timing for domestic EVs

I thought the smart metering and multiple tariffs etc would be doing the job of smoothing out the demand curve(correct terminology there ?)

 

[catdog1121]

Can be over-ridden... Also people will start disconnecting the chargers from the internet so they cannot be turned off... Good idea in principle but worrying that this sort of thing is starting so soon when only a small percentage of people have gone EV...

 

[DPG]

Can be over-ridden... Also people will start disconnecting the chargers from the internet so they cannot be turned off... Good idea in principle but worrying that this sort of thing is starting so soon when only a small percentage of people have gone EV...

Surely it's better that it is being thought about now, while numbers are still low.

 

[UNG]

I guess if it changes the suppliers will have the flexibility to make adjustments with the smart meters

Its definitely news to me this idea of fixing the timing for domestic EVs

I thought the smart metering and multiple tariffs etc would be doing the job of smoothing out the demand curve(correct terminology there ?)

The point I was trying to make is that there will be no off peak cheap electricity in the future as electricity use will become more of a load balancing exercise for electricity suppliers

 

[UNG]

Can be over-ridden... Also people will start disconnecting the chargers from the internet so they cannot be turned off... Good idea in principle but worrying that this sort of thing is starting so soon when only a small percentage of people have gone EV...

So what happens if no internet means no charge output

 

[HappyHippyDad]

I wonder if Tesla thought about this, hence making their EVCP's dumb.

 

[Zerax]

I thought the smart metering and multiple tariffs etc would be doing the job of smoothing out the demand curve

The problem with this approach is that electricity is still very cheap during peak periods (relatively speaking) compared with the amount of money people have.

It works great for people like me who have made it almost a 'hobby' of reducing the amount and cost of electricity that we use... but I fear that for the majority of the general public, saving £1 a day won't make the slightest difference... even if they know what it's costing them.

We need to make the price differential far greater... but then of course there'll be uproar in the media ! The BBC and Ch4 will make a series of documentaries about how 'unfair' it is, riots similar to the poll tax ones etc. etc....

 

[littlespark]

I believe they mean at peak consumption times, rather than an

it just means come the adverts during Britain’s got talent, when everyone turns on their kettles, the chargers will get a little signal to say stop, just for a while.

Smart meters give the supply companies a “real time” pattern of usage for the country

 

[pc1966]

Lets fact it, if the choice is replacing/upgrading most of the underground cables, substations and generation capacity, or load-balancing EV chargers that typically are on overnight at home, or for long periods at work, which is going to be affordable for the country?

The CT clamp style to limit home demand to the 60A fuse is a start, but it has to be linked up to keep the grid capacity within bounds one more than a trivial number are in use.

I think the diversity allowance per household is in the 3-5kW region but maybe someone with better knowledge has a recent figure?

 

[telectrix]

I believe they mean at peak consumption times, rather than an

it just means come the adverts during Britain’s got talent, when everyone turns on their kettles, the chargers will get a little signal to say stop, just for a while.

Smart meters give the supply companies a “real time” pattern of usage for the country

problem solved. open a beer rather than putting the kettle on.

 

[telectrix]

 

[Mikegh]

Seems to be a preset setting that can be overridden as was pointed out

Presume then it will be a part of the strategy with the smart tariffs to load balance as also pointed out previously

 

[littlespark]

There’s also going to be the option of selling back the charge in the car battery back into the grid.
Fine for people that charge all night, then only drive 3 miles to a shop every couple of days.

 

[telectrix]

just entered a comp, to win a Tesla leccy car. let you know how it goes. bet I'm not a winner, but thousands of sites now have my email to bombard me with junk.

 

[stevethesparks]

Wait until the gas boilers disappear.
Meanwhile, for a few million quid, Branson will send you into space regardless of how much S**t each launch puts into the air.

 

[Mikegh]

Hmm ya

Is the solid fuel going eventually as well ?

Ye'll have to invade France again and take one of their reactors

 

[DPG]

Wait until the gas boilers disappear.
Meanwhile, for a few million quid, Branson will send you into space regardless of how much S**t each launch puts into the air.

Probably less than the thousands of planes that take us all on holidays each year.

 

[loz2754]

Hmm ya

Is the solid fuel going eventually as well ?

Ye'll have to invade France again and take one of their reactors

Wonder how the French would react to such a reactory act of reactor reduction...

 

[mattg4321]

Probably less than the thousands of planes that take us all on holidays each year.

Difference is that’s the emissions of millions of people, not one egotistical t**t

 

[brianmoooore]

Ye'll have to invade France again and take one of their reactors

We already take the equivalent of most of the output of the nearest one to me, piping it across on two under sea cables

 

[snowhead]

Difference is that’s the emissions of millions of people, not one egotistical t**t

It's not just one and he's not the worst.
Elon Musk, SpacEx, is launching hundreds of space flights to put up thousands of satellites for total World Broadband, or whatever the next level of speed will be defined as.
They've launched rockets over 150 times and put up 700 satellites with a total of 12000 due by 2024.
Plus another 30000 in the future.

Waste of money really, all they had to do was put WiFi hubs on top of every Tesla car.

Then there's Jeff Bezos at it as well.