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Hi guys, could you please take a moment to review the electrician's work on my flat and leave a comment as to its quality.

Switches and sockets were placed in various strange positions without my agreement. He has moved them where required but they're still not 100% and are not centered and measured properly on the walls.

We had agreed that all wires would be chased into the brickwork inside plastic conduit. I am disappointed to see so much raw cable buried within the plaster without conduit.

Thanks for your input,

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Sorry to say chap, but what you have had done is certainly not a professional job, as previous posters have said, looks more like the builder/plumber has had a go, because as everyone knows being an electrician is sooooo easy. Cut your losses and get a real electrician in, and also get a new plumber and builder too by the looks of all the other pictures
 
Is that a taped up joint hes going to plaster in:detective: .... i would confirm that he is going to supply a certificate for his work and also that you are bringing in a third party to assess the quality and safety of the work as you have reservations as one of your friends is a electrician and has brought up some issues with the install... any good quality competent electrician wouldn't mind his work been inspected...
 
darkwood said:
Is that a taped up joint hes going to plaster in:detective: .... i would confirm that he is going to supply a certificate for his work and also that you are bringing in a third party to assess the quality and safety of the work as you have reservations as one of your friends is a electrician and has brought up some issues with the install... any good quality competent electrician wouldn't mind his work been inspected...
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looks like it dark....
kev kitchen...again...
 
yes all, I had found a perfectly good electrician on this forum and ended up choosing a builder's electrician to save a couple grand - and look at the state I'm in.

suggestions on what to do now are welcome. How do you renegotiate payment at this point?
 
Quite simple, you tell him you're not paying for that load of shyte and you want the job done properly. He has one chance to put it right it's up to him whether he takes it or not.
 
How to negotiate..... Easy, tell him you will pay him the going rate for everything he has done right - minus everything it costs you to sort his remedial work. Problem solved.
 
Try contacting building control to assess the work been done and forward the report to the builder that unless all issues raised are addresed you will withhold payment... im not sure if building control also cover part p others will tell you but id put a hold on the progress of the job until report been done and show all pictures you have shown us.....

List the concerns we have addressed from buried joints taped up to cables running over heating pipes and many more like zoning of cables that do look like they are going off on a diagnal. It may cost you for the assessment and you may need a separate Electrical but to continue and have to re-due it all probably at your expense would be alot more costly and i doubt you want to get into a legal battle with these cowboys.
 
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Looking at all those pics I'd say that the electrics are only half of your worries. The building work is shyte as well. If the work you CAN see is that bad gawd knows what the hidden stuff is like.
 
laike said:
yes all, I had found a perfectly good electrician on this forum and ended up choosing a builder's electrician to save a couple grand - and look at the state I'm in.

suggestions on what to do now are welcome. How do you renegotiate payment at this point?
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Sorry to say but this approach nearly always ends in tears, you can probably kiss goodbye to the couple of grand you saved.
Whilst I wish you all the best in sorting this, I feel a lesson well learned. Lack of Money should never be the reason for choosing a trade, save up and pay for a professional rate.
 
You don't renegotiate the price you tell him to bugger off, ask for compensation to put the job right and call a professional in :) as the saying goes pay peanuts you get monkeys and you clearly have buddy !
 
My god I thought I was rough!!!
was the electrician British because if he was he should be struck off, it looks like something you see when your on holiday.
personally I'd kick the electrician of site and get a qualified one in, if the builder complains I'd kick him off as well cos his work looks like a bag of ****e too.
what do they say get three quotes and pick the cheapest, and by golly this is what you get
 
to be fair the electrician is NICEIC certified and came highly recommended from the builder, who himself had several good reviews on mybuilder.com.

but yes, consider my lesson learnt.
 
That is a terrible electrical instal and so is the rest of it. You have been had and unfortunately trying to scrimp on paying the proper rates has left you with this. Did you even ask the "spark" for any sort of prove of competency probably not as you where paying peanuts.

Learn a lesson from this and get qualified tradesmen to do the work not just the first :cowboy: to offer a cheap rate.
 
mybuilder.com.......oh dear. And NICEIC registered. You need to get onto NIC and get them round to have a look. Thats if he really is which personally I doubt, but then again nothing surprises me these days with the state of this trade.
 
I haven't paid anything yet. Do you think it would be fair to just ask him to quit and call it even? He only spent 2 days work on it, and a roll of cable. Is zero payment fair?
 
It's not even worth £360.

Was there a contract drawen up for any of this work? You as the client can state at the contract stage that electrical work has to be carried out by a member of a professional scheme.
 
laike said:
to be fair the electrician is NICEIC certified and came highly recommended from the builder, who himself had several good reviews on mybuilder.com.

but yes, consider my lesson learnt.
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I'm niceic and now thoroughly embarrassed that they would let this monkey join. Does prove that as long as you pay your good to go.
you can phone niceic up and ask for one of they inspectors to come out, it's worth a go cos if its part p there's an insurance issue.
but good luck with them I think you will have to persevere
 
there was a contract drawn up with fairly detailed specifications and pricing. I was given a copy of his NICEIC membership certificate.

thanks for your help guys, really appreciate it.
 
Report the contractor to he NICEIC and demand they send out an assessor. This will be free of charge. If the company is NICEIC registered then they should take action.
 
Out of interest, is this a flat that you are waiting to live in or is it a project to rent out, if the latter then you have time in your side and from your previous posts it would seem that you had a specific placement plan, which suggests that you like a job well done. So if it was me, I would contact the Niceic and insist on an inspector being present when you have arranged for the electrician to visit, have the inspector in one room whilst you conduct a meeting with the electrician, so that the conversation can be overheard. Then introduce the electrician to the inspector and insist that a written agreement to rectify the installation to both your requirements and the regulations is drawn up with all three signatures on. This way you are getting a commitment from the Niceic to ensure this is put right at no extra expense to yourself. Agree payment upon satisfactory completion with further first and second fix inspections by the inspector. If this fails then a letter to the head of the DCLG to report the unsatisfactory workmanship of part p.
 
just up the road from here is chester zoo. they've got monkeys that could do a better job. at least you hold the ace in the hole , inasmuch as you've not paid him yet. give him the chance to rectify the work, and if he walks, then get a decent sparks in th put it right.
 
It looks like the sort of perverse thing I’d do.

A mock up total bodge job. Then sit back laughing at the reaction of other tradesmen!
I did work for a major multinational as an approved trainer. Later I taught the trainers. Sabotage? It’s a training exercise!

The OP has shown a skill to be admired in total ineptitude. It can’t be by accident.
 
biff55 said:
at which point the whole forum runs out of sympathy.
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A bit harsh Biff.

You'll find members advising that recommendation is the best way forward when choosing tradesmen.
In this case clearly it wasn't a good recommendation.

The guy came recommended ,NICEIC registered (allegedly) and cheaper.
Can't really blame the OP for that.

However at least the OP has enough common sense to see shoddy work and has asked for advice on an electricians advice forum.

My advice for what it is worth would be to take your photos and possibly more to your local BC office and don't pay out another penny to these guys.

might be better to cut your losses and get different contractors in altogether.

Most decent contractors from any trade can provide references and with enough notice will be able to show you previous work or even work in progress.

Hindsight is always 20/20 most people just go with a recommendation from someone they trust.
 
biff55 said:
at which point the whole forum runs out of sympathy.
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he could now redeem himself...
and spread the good word that builder `electrics` cost money...and time
better to employ a known electrician to carry out electrical work...from a reputable site such as someone in here...or a goodstanding, local tradesman who is known for quality work...
lets please, please have no more yarricks, or any of the other slovenia brigade....
and no more `daves` from the bar/club....
 
GLENNSPARK said:
he could now redeem himself...
and spread the good word that builder `electrics` cost money...and time
better to employ a known electrician to carry out electrical work...from a reputable site such as someone in here...or a goodstanding, local tradesman who is known for quality work...
lets please, please have no more yarricks, or any of the other slovenia brigade....
and no more `daves` from the bar/club....
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To be fair Glen, shoddy work has been around a long long time, and not just in our trade. Word of mouth is the best way to do it if you are fortunate enough to be in a network.
 
GLENNSPARK said:
he could now redeem himself...
and spread the good word that builder `electrics` cost money...and time
better to employ a known electrician to carry out electrical work...from a reputable site such as someone in here...or a goodstanding, local tradesman who is known for quality work...
lets please, please have no more yarricks, or any of the other slovenia brigade....
and no more `daves` from the bar/club....
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Yo be fair to the OP he was shown an enrollment certificate, however it may not have belonged to the 'so called' electrician in question
 
Did you specify and agree to pay for plastic conduit drops as your specification?
Nowt wrong with going beyond regs as long as you get what you agree.
Not much point in asking someone to fix something when they had a chance and access to do it right the first time because to them this might be a good job.
Change the locks asap.

Boydy
 
Boydy said:
Did you specify and agree to pay for plastic conduit drops as your specification?
Nowt wrong with going beyond regs as long as you get what you agree.
Not much point in asking someone to fix something when they had a chance and access to do it right the first time because to them this might be a good job.
Change the locks asap.

Boydy
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he could`v at least nailed a bit of channel over em...
 
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