Undercut again ....20 characters

[telectrix]

4 bedroom house. total rewire, customer has had a quote for £2800. £1200 below my minimum estimate. words fail me.

 

[Pete999]

4 bedroom house. total rewire, customer has had a quote for £2800. £1200 below my minimum estimate. words fail me.

Cowboys again Tel

 

[LankyWill]

Just sit back and sip your pint laughing at the donkey doing the rewire for that price. There loss anyway Tel

 

[telectrix]

even working @ £50/point i get £2800 and that's without points for shower/cooker/fans, and CU,earthing and bonding.

 

[The Ghost]

We have a guy in Bristol who will rewire pretty well any house for £2000, can't beat that!

 

[Octopus]

But do they pay any NI and tax?

 

[snowhead]

Lucky escape there Tel.

If that's what the customer wants to pay, they'd have been trying to pick fault and argueing over your price if you'd got the job.

 

[snowhead]

But do they pay any NI and tax?

I'm employed full time and don't pay N.I and if I remember correctly Tel won't pay N.I either.

Now Tax, that's a diffeerent thing.

 

[Octopus]

I'm employed full time and don't pay N.I and if I remember correctly Tel won't pay N.I either.

Now Tax, that's a diffeerent thing.

Does that mean you can avoid class 4 NI's too due to your age?

I have paid my 35 years of NI so can I stop contributing now?

 

[telectrix]

don't have to pay NI if over 65. 30 years subs. gets full state pension, murdoch, ask your accountant. you may be able to opt out.

 

[Octopus]

National Insurance and tax after State Pension age - GOV.UK - https://www.gov.uk/tax-national-insurance-after-state-pension-age

Hum ....seemingly I have to pay for a long time yet...

 

[Dave OCD]

4 bedroom house. total rewire, customer has had a quote for £2800. £1200 below my minimum estimate. words fail me.

Leave them to it Tel, you can charge what you like when you get a call to put it right. All joking aside though rewires are hard work and knackering so you've saved yourself some stress there.

 

[Hardwired]

I tend to knock them back anyway. Pain in the bum. All that wraggling.

 

[telectrix]

in fact the house is right next door. new owners. to be honest, i'd let the cowboys do it, then make a decent earner out of putting it right. they already know a neighbour who bought house just rewired ( organised by seller) and know that another spark had to come and put it right. so they may decide to pay that bit extra and get a decent job.

 

[tomspark93]

Don't get beat up mate. Some people just want the cheapest price thinking the quality will remain the same. It'll it hit them when things start going wrong.

 

[telectrix]

I'm not bothered if i don't get it, TBH. prefer to do 50 small jobs, in and out in a day sort of thing. at 70, don't want to tempt fate by buggering up what bits of me still work.

 

[gutterball]

I never bother about being undercut on pricing. I quote what I thing the job is worth and if someone can do it cheaper good luck to them. I get plenty of work at the price I charge so dont miss enything.

 

[Specialist]

I'm not bothered if i don't get it, TBH. prefer to do 50 small jobs, in and out in a day sort of thing. at 70, don't want to tempt fate by buggering up what bits of me still work.

Blimey tel, you've got some bits that still work ? You lucky bugger

I try not to do jobs for neighbours if I can help it. Once you start, they think your at their beck & call 24/7.

 

[Rpa07]

We have a guy in Bristol who will rewire pretty well any house for £2000, can't beat that!

It ain't me @Vortigern - I got standards and they're high and can't be bought off!

 

[Taylortwocities]

Just tell your new neighbours to be sure that they will be provided with an Electrical Installation Certificate and that with work will be properly notified to the local authority. All included in the price.
Tell them to make sure the sparking company is a member of an Electrical Competent Person Scheme.

Those simple questions usually gets rid of 50% of the competition.....

 

[Specialist]

It ain't me @Vortigern - I got standards and they're high and can't be bought off!

Give you a fiver for them

 

[Rpa07]

£7.50 they're yours but don't tell anyone on the forum!

Give you a fiver for them

 

[Specialist]

Blimey your expensive, ok £7.50 it is? They'd better be good standards though .

 

[Octopus]

I was asked for a verbal quote for a rewire a few months ago .. so I used £50 per point as a starting point... The "person" said it was a rip off... talking it though with them, it then transpired the "price" was ALL cash, to avoid VAT and presumably tax and NI.....

 

[Pete999]

Just tell your new neighbours to be sure that they will be provided with an Electrical Installation Certificate and that with work will be properly notified to the local authority. All included in the price.
Tell them to make sure the sparking company is a member of an Electrical Competent Person Scheme.

Those simple questions usually gets rid of 50% of the competition.....

So belonging to a scheme is the B all and end all of things? as an Electrician, time served Qualified with many years of experience, prohibits me from carrying out any Domestic work does it? I agree with the first part of your reply, but the second leaves a sour taste in my mouth, if I understand your theory.

 

[Specialist]

Totally agree Pete. There are many people not in schemes, that can do the job just as well if not better than some in them.

 

[Deleted member 9648]

Slightly off topic but perhaps relevant to the theme.
We have done the repairs, maintenance and small installations at one of the largest secondary schools in the south for decades. Nothing for close to a year. Got a call last week to 'help them out with some bits'. Arrived to find they have one of the caretakers doing the work. In this case a toilet refurb. False ceiling installed with drop in LED panels and a PIR ceiling sensor. In order to get the wiring to the sensor he'd partially cut the steel conduit to the existing switch and then rocked it back and forth till it snapped and dragged the singles across the grid to the sensor. From the existing 2D ceiling lights he'd put connectors on the wires, singles down to the new panels,and then another bare connector to join the driver flex. Couldn't get the sensor to work so called me in....(no neutral). Oh....and while that's going on he's also changing the high level 400w low bays in the sports hall for LED low bays.
If a major public funded educational establishment thinks it's OK for unqualified cleaners to be doing their electrical installations we may as well give up now.
Doomed we are,Doomed.

 

[telectrix]

Slightly off topic but perhaps relevant to the theme.
We have done the repairs, maintenance and small installations at one of the largest secondary schools in the south for decades. Nothing for close to a year. Got a call last week to 'help them out with some bits'. Arrived to find they have one of the caretakers doing the work. In this case a toilet refurb. False ceiling installed with drop in LED panels and a PIR ceiling sensor. In order to get the wiring to the sensor he'd partially cut the steel conduit to the existing switch and then rocked it back and forth till it snapped and dragged the singles across the grid to the sensor. From the existing 2D ceiling lights he'd put connectors on the wires, singles down to the new panels,and then another bare connector to join the driver flex. Couldn't get the sensor to work so called me in....(no neutral). Oh....and while that's going on he's also changing the high level 400w low bays in the sports hall for LED low bays.
If a major public funded educational establishment thinks it's OK for unqualified cleaners to be doing their electrical installations we may as well give up now.
Doomed we are,Doomed.

ask the board of governors if they have an installation certificate.

 

[Specialist]

Wonder how many backhanders got him that job, hope you chastised him well & made the school pay a stiff financial penalty.

 

[Pete999]

Budget constraints, untrained staff, it's a sign of the times I'm afraid, wait until a School catches fire, Kids get an Electric shock, God forbid anyone gets seriously hurt, then watch the bums go sixpence , shilling, Half a crown, for the members who don't remember imperial measurements or currency, it equates to squeaky bum syndrome, it's not right to let untrained janitors do this sort of work, but unfortunately it happens. I blame the Tories