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Cowboys again Tel4 bedroom house. total rewire, customer has had a quote for £2800. £1200 below my minimum estimate. words fail me.
But do they pay any NI and tax?
I'm employed full time and don't pay N.I and if I remember correctly Tel won't pay N.I either.
Now Tax, that's a diffeerent thing.
4 bedroom house. total rewire, customer has had a quote for £2800. £1200 below my minimum estimate. words fail me.
I'm not bothered if i don't get it, TBH. prefer to do 50 small jobs, in and out in a day sort of thing. at 70, don't want to tempt fate by buggering up what bits of me still work.
It ain't me @Vortigern - I got standards and they're high and can't be bought off!We have a guy in Bristol who will rewire pretty well any house for £2000, can't beat that!
It ain't me @Vortigern - I got standards and they're high and can't be bought off!
Give you a fiver for them
So belonging to a scheme is the B all and end all of things? as an Electrician, time served Qualified with many years of experience, prohibits me from carrying out any Domestic work does it? I agree with the first part of your reply, but the second leaves a sour taste in my mouth, if I understand your theory.Just tell your new neighbours to be sure that they will be provided with an Electrical Installation Certificate and that with work will be properly notified to the local authority. All included in the price.
Tell them to make sure the sparking company is a member of an Electrical Competent Person Scheme.
Those simple questions usually gets rid of 50% of the competition.....
ask the board of governors if they have an installation certificate.Slightly off topic but perhaps relevant to the theme.
We have done the repairs, maintenance and small installations at one of the largest secondary schools in the south for decades. Nothing for close to a year. Got a call last week to 'help them out with some bits'. Arrived to find they have one of the caretakers doing the work. In this case a toilet refurb. False ceiling installed with drop in LED panels and a PIR ceiling sensor. In order to get the wiring to the sensor he'd partially cut the steel conduit to the existing switch and then rocked it back and forth till it snapped and dragged the singles across the grid to the sensor. From the existing 2D ceiling lights he'd put connectors on the wires, singles down to the new panels,and then another bare connector to join the driver flex. Couldn't get the sensor to work so called me in....(no neutral). Oh....and while that's going on he's also changing the high level 400w low bays in the sports hall for LED low bays.
If a major public funded educational establishment thinks it's OK for unqualified cleaners to be doing their electrical installations we may as well give up now.
Doomed we are,Doomed.
I'm not going to get involved mate. The thing is they went down this road about 10 years ago ,and it all ended in very expensive tears when a periodic (as it was then known) picked up loads of dangerous alterations carried out by the head caretaker, who was 'let go' very soon after.ask the board of governors if they have an installation certificate.
Can't help but wonder why the caretaker was "let go" sacked. fired a scapegoat if ever I saw one, doubt if he was in a TU the would have kicked up a stink, or at least I would have in my Prospect Capacity.I'm not going to get involved mate. The thing is they went down this road about 10 years ago ,and it all ended in very expensive tears when a periodic (as it was then known) picked up loads of dangerous alterations carried out by the head caretaker, who was 'let go' very soon after.
Lots of remedial work for yours truly.
Short memories they have.
Wonder how many backhanders got him that job, hope you chastised him well & made the school pay a stiff financial penalty.
He can't be totally to blame, just doing what he was told to do by Cretins.I happen to know the person carrying out the work is concerned over whether he should be doing it at all.....but appears to have been rather stitched up over a perk he signed up for on agreement of additional duties being carried out. I believe those additional duties started out as grass cutting etc and have rather snowballed but they've got him by the short and curlies.
Biding my time, it'll come back and bite them again.
Agree to a certain extent, but ultimately the buck stops with his boss for sanctioning the botch job, yes it was wrong of him but shame on the upper echelons for hanging him out to dry, seen it many times a s a civil servant, did a course on it once called A--e covering.Maybe true, but that's no excuse for the way he butchered the conduit switch drop & dragged the wiring out.
He knew what he was doing & that it was dangerous and wrong, that's no one else's fault but his.
I don't want to fall out over this Andy, I've had lots of experience dealing with this sort of issue, and I agree and applaud your actions in refusing to be coerced into doing something dangerous, and rightly so.Don't think we're ever going to agree on this one Pete, no his boss shouldn't have sanctioned him doing the work or coerced him into it. I seriously doubt though that the boss got up on a ladder to see what had been done above the ceiling.
Yes I've had bosses who tried to coerce me into doing things on a job that I knew were dangerous corner cutting, I've always refused. Twice I've been told to either do the work or look for another job, both occasions I told them where to shove the job.
Let them crack on, better to be skint on the sofa.4 bedroom house. total rewire, customer has had a quote for £2800. £1200 below my minimum estimate. words fail me.
I've usually seen it go the other way. Many a time when working doing local authority work have I turned up to schools to change lamps in fittings because the caretaker has been banned from going up steps due to "working at height" panic.
It's at this point you wait for the job to be completed and you being called out after things start tripping
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