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And your point??
I think some people are exaggerating! How are trainees supposed to learn if they can't crack on with a menial job!
You'd be happy for a gas fitter to work in your house with the same attitude ?
"Hey I don't have insurance but that's for chumps right ? I don't need anyone to tell me how to do gas work I know I'm fine and that's all that matters lol. I'll finish your boiler install right after I've been on an internet forum and asked for help cos there are some bits I'm not sure of. Trust me geezer it'll all be fine."
I think some people are exaggerating! How are trainees supposed to learn if they can't crack on with a menial job!
You probably mean "plumber"! And there's a big difference between a boiler change and changing a socket!
When they are working with me trainees learn by doing the real work under my supervision as required. The menial jobs I often do myself so that they can carry on with the jobs they will learn more from.
You probably mean "plumber"! And there's a big difference between a boiler change and changing a socket!
You'd be happy for a gas fitter to work in your house with the same attitude ?
"Hey I don't have insurance but that's for chumps right ? I don't need anyone to tell me how to do gas work I know I'm fine and that's all that matters lol. I'll finish your boiler install right after I've been on an internet forum and asked for help cos there are some bits I'm not sure of. Trust me geezer it'll all be fine."
if you feel competent to do it, go for it. there's only 1 person that can help you and that is yourself. please feel free to pm me if you need any advice.
Quote post 4 & 5 and leave it at that!
I wouldn't suggesting twisting of telectrix post #4. What you are saying is do uninsured work.
When they are working with me trainees learn by doing the real work under my supervision as required. The menial jobs I often do myself so that they can carry on with the jobs they will learn more from.
Sounds good to me
It’s not just a good way, it’s the best way. It’s how I was treated as an apprentice and how I treated apprentices later.
You have a job to do and you set out how you’re going to do it, at that point you ask for confirmation. If it’s good, you move on to the next part of the job. On it goes to completion. At that point it becomes your work and you’ll take pride in. The trainee will have learnt far more than they would by doing what “Joe” said.
It’s not just a good way, it’s the best way. It’s how I was treated as an apprentice and how I treated apprentices later.
You have a job to do and you set out how you’re going to do it, at that point you ask for confirmation. If it’s good, you move on to the next part of the job. On it goes to completion. At that point it becomes your work and you’ll take pride in. The trainee will have learnt far more than they would by doing what “Joe” said.
I get treated like an apprentice maybe that's because everyone I work with I tell them where I'm at in my studies and what I want to achieve.
I would not do just what "bob" says especially if it is wrong and there is no pride in this or ownership.
I get treated like an apprentice maybe that's because everyone I work with I tell them where I'm at in my studies and what I want to achieve.
I would not do just what "bob" says especially if it is wrong and there is no pride in this or ownership.
Nowt wrong with being an apprentice! I wouldn't do what Bob said either
Good way and I’ll bet you get more help by setting out your goals first.
So what happens when “Bob” tells you to do something in a certain way?
Mike, follow the more sensible advice and before you do anything get some PL Insurance. 1M of cover for domestic work only doesn't cost a lot, probably could get it for £60-£80 a year.
That insurance is a must and anyone working without it is walking a fine line. It's nothing to do with how competent you feel you are, you could drop your pliers and damage a floor, damage wall paper etc etc
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