working as an electrician when not qualified?

[Mike Blair]

Im 19 and have my level 2,3 2365 and 17th edition and had around 1.5 years work experience as an electricians mate. I have been trying to find work as an electricians mate but no luck because i can not drive. But i have been offered small electrical work i know how to do. but i have always been a bit weird about working with my current qualifications on my own as i am only qualified as an electricians mate from what my college told me. until i get my 2394,5 i can not get with napit etc etc. What should i do i need the money and no one will take me on because i can not drive. small jobs would help me out big time right now in time for driving lessons etc but is it ilegal / wrong working with my current qualifications? i only do jobs i know how to do ,comfortable with

 

[cotty]

What makes you suggest ive not completed an apprenticeship?

Thanks for the confirmation chin up hey

 

[uksparks]

You're obviously working where insurance is needed! My point is, for minor works as a trainee, why need insurance for minor works if you are competent? We've all done jobs here and there lol! I must be the only fraud on this site then! Oh well 

Minor works can actually be quite big things, you could be doing work in a special location for example, or you could even make lots of changes to multiple circuits and still class it as minor works. If you as to to get technical, a minor works certificate could be used for something like making quote big changes to a circuit when an EIC would be issued for a single socket next to the consumer unit which is less minor in a sense than making lots of potentially big changes to a circuit.

 

[uksparks]

Thanks for the confirmation  chin up hey 

No, I didn't say that, you are presuming and quite wrong.

 

[cotty]

I think some people are exaggerating! How are trainees supposed to learn if they can't crack on with a menial job!

 

[cotty]

Minor works can actually be quite big things, you could be doing work in a special location for example, or you could even make lots of changes to multiple circuits and still class it as minor works. If you as to to get technical, a minor works certificate could be used for something like making quote big changes to a circuit when an EIC would be issued for a single socket next to the consumer unit which is less minor in a sense than making lots of potentially big changes to a circuit.

And your point??

 

[uksparks]

I agree to an extent, but how far do you keep pushing your limits? Before you know if someone will say change my fuse box and you say yes. Either way though, you should be insured!

 

[uksparks]

And your point??

I was just saying that you were suggesting that it's ok to do uninsured minor works, so was just stating what is deemed as minor.

 

[Andy78]

I think some people are exaggerating! How are trainees supposed to learn if they can't crack on with a menial job!

You'd be happy for a gas fitter to work in your house with the same attitude ?

"Hey I don't have insurance but that's for chumps right ? I don't need anyone to tell me how to do gas work I know I'm fine and that's all that matters lol. I'll finish your boiler install right after I've been on an internet forum and asked for help cos there are some bits I'm not sure of. Trust me geezer it'll all be fine."

 

[cotty]

You'd be happy for a gas fitter to work in your house with the same attitude ?

"Hey I don't have insurance but that's for chumps right ? I don't need anyone to tell me how to do gas work I know I'm fine and that's all that matters lol. I'll finish your boiler install right after I've been on an internet forum and asked for help cos there are some bits I'm not sure of. Trust me geezer it'll all be fine."

You probably mean "plumber"! And there's a big difference between a boiler change and changing a socket!

 

[uksparks]

Very true!

re: #53

 

[davesparks]

I think some people are exaggerating! How are trainees supposed to learn if they can't crack on with a menial job!

When they are working with me trainees learn by doing the real work under my supervision as required. The menial jobs I often do myself so that they can carry on with the jobs they will learn more from.

 

[uksparks]

You probably mean "plumber"! And there's a big difference between a boiler change and changing a socket!

i don't know so much, both have the potential to kill.

i guess you could compare boiled change to new consumer unit.

 

[uksparks]

When they are working with me trainees learn by doing the real work under my supervision as required. The menial jobs I often do myself so that they can carry on with the jobs they will learn more from.

Sounds good to me

 

[Andy78]

You probably mean "plumber"! And there's a big difference between a boiler change and changing a socket!

So the OP is going to be changing sockets for customers and nothing else ? I have not been made aware of this information.

 

[Leesparkykent]

You'd be happy for a gas fitter to work in your house with the same attitude ?

"Hey I don't have insurance but that's for chumps right ? I don't need anyone to tell me how to do gas work I know I'm fine and that's all that matters lol. I'll finish your boiler install right after I've been on an internet forum and asked for help cos there are some bits I'm not sure of. Trust me geezer it'll all be fine."

haha hey I'm such a pro I'm not even going to test it as I know my soldering is second to none lol